[ANSTHRLD] Conflict Check: Or, on a pile gules a lion and a stag combatant counter-changed

[Bob Wade]

Currently unregisterable items like "Or, chaussé azure, a dragon segreant azure between in fess two dragons' head couped respectant Or" (Svea Wartooth, Device, July 1993) still need to be considered for conflict.

".... However, there are other circumstances do exist where there is a conflict with already registered armory due to reblazoning the registered armory. Last month, for example, we returned ...on a compass star argent a Maltese cross azure...for conflict with ...within a sun throughout argent, eclipsed azure, a goshawk displayed argent, giving no CD between the two excerpted parts. In this case the already registered armory would today be blazoned as ...on a sun throughout argent, a roundel azure charged with a goshawk displayed argent, emphasizing that the goshawk can be considered a quaternary charge and thus ignored completely when checking for conflict.
"The main difference between these two cases is that in the "no conflict" example it was the new armory to which the problematic reblazon applied, while in the "yes conflict" example it was the old armory that had the unregisterable reblazon." [Cover Letter, June 2004]
 

--- On Fri, 6/1/12, S L Niemann <slniemann at gmail.com> wrote:


From: S L Niemann <slniemann at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Conflict Check: Or, on a pile gules a lion and a stag combatant counter-changed
To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
Date: Friday, June 1, 2012, 6:57 AM


On Jun 1, 2012 1:08 AM, "Tim McDaniel" <tmcd at panix.com> wrote:
> No, I believe that Dum spiritus, spes has the right of it.
> 8/10 LoAR, Gwenllian of Emlyn,
>
>    Since it is not registerable under that blazon, even though the
>    old device is blazoned that way, we do not need to consider it for
>    conflict under that blazon, by precedent:
>
> and then quoting Cover Letter, June 2004.
>
> Danyll de Linccolne
> --
> Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com

Ah, Daniel, thank you! Was hoping  I was not out there.

*Apparently my phone ate part of my Sig last time...

Ines
Dum spiritus, spes
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