[ANSTHRLD] Device self conflict

Jennifer Smith jds at randomgang.com
Wed May 2 22:01:26 PDT 2012


Also remember that the labels "device" and "badge" are really largely
administrative -- there's absolutely nothing that prevents you from
displaying a badge for an alternate persona as if it were that
persona's arms.

-Emma

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 2 May 2012, Salvador Ordo_ez
> <salvadorthespaniard at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> So the one device is attached to the person, not the persona?
>
>
> To be precise, the College of Arms Administrative Handbook has
>
>    A. Names Which May be Registered to Individuals - Names which may
>    be registered to individuals are divided into several
>    administrative categories.
>
>    1. Primary Society Name - The single personal name under which
>    records of registration are maintained. ...
>
>    2. Alternate Society Name - Any personal name(s) registered for an
>    individual other than his or her Primary Society Name. An
>    Alternate Society Name may be registered alone or may be
>    associated with a badge. Records for both name and armory will be
>    maintained under the individual's Primary Society Name.
>
> So, to be precise, the device is attached to the Primary Society
> Name.  Any Alternate Society Names are also filed in the same folder,
> with the Primary Society Name on it.  Any badges for the Alternate
> Society Names go into the same folder.  On the Letter of Intent, it
> would be listed like
>
>    Dietrich Kempenich von Eltz. Alternate name Hanse Cleermaeckere
>    and badge. Argent, a brown hen proper.
>
> and in the Armorial as
>
>    Dietrich Kempenich von Eltz|201108X|b|Argent, a brown hen
>    proper.|(For Hanse Cleermaeckere)
>
> ("|b|" for badge)
>
>    Hanse Cleermaeckere|201108X|AN|For Dietrich Kempenich von Eltz|
>
> ("|AN|" for Alternate Name)
>
> Meaning that Dietrich Kempenich von Eltz is the primary name, and
> though the other two are also findable, they're still under Dietrich
> etc.
>
> Or, in very brief:
>
> Yes.
>
> Daniel Lindocollinum
> --
> Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
>
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