[ANSTHRLD] Conflict check please

S L Niemann slniemann at gmail.com
Sat May 5 17:00:33 PDT 2012


Sure Tostig, the "between in fess" placed the trumpets palewise by
implication (fitting the space). And it could have been a complex
primary group, though I meant it to be primary, secondary and
tertiary. Thanks

Ines


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On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Bob Wade <logiosophia at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Ines,
>
> I think the blazon you're looking for is "Per saltire Or and sable, on a tower gules, between two trumpets palewise, a key wards to dexter Or."  (That makes the tower the primary charge and the trumpets a secondary charge group)  If you're thinking of a primary charge group consisting of a charged tower between two trumpets of equal visual weight, the blazon would be "Per saltire Or and sable, in fess a tower gules charged with a key, wards to dester, between two trumpets palewise Or."
>
> Tostig
>
>
> --- On Sat, 5/5/12, S L Niemann <slniemann at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: S L Niemann <slniemann at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Conflict check please
> To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Date: Saturday, May 5, 2012, 4:44 PM
>
>
> Blazon-fu:
> Per saltire Or and sable, a tower gules, a chief embattled vert
> charged with a trumpet Or and a base embattled purpure charged with a
> key Or.
>
> hrmm: Or, sable, gules, vert, purpure, tower, chief, trumpet, base, key
>
> That is a complexity count of ten: current rules, too complex - return
> for style issues.
>
> Under new rules, _A.3.E Complexity count_ "An item with a complexity
> count of nine or higher that follows a period pattern of charges and
> tinctures may be registered, but may need to be documented as an
> Individually Attested Pattern."
>
> Can we find a pattern of complex field, primary charge group, two
> peripheral charges, each secondary charged with a tertiary?
>
>
> Might I suggest:
> Per saltire Or and sable, on a tower gules in fess between two
> trumpets a key Or wards to dexter
>
> Or, sable, gules, tower, trumpet, key
> This has a complexity of six and it appears clear. No architecture on
> that field description.
>
> Ines
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>
>
> On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Frank Schalles
> <francisschalles at gmail.com> wrote:
>>  *Per saltaire Or and sable, a tower gules. On a chief embattled vert a
>> trumpet Or. On a base embattled purpure a key Or*
>>
>> YIS
>>
>> Francois de Lions
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