[ANSTHRLD] April 2012 ILoI, 13, Wolf de G{a:}nger

[Eirik Halfdanarson]

I have entered the comments where I believe you intended them to go. There
was a partial that they seemed to go with. 

Eirik 
Bordure


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Subject: April 2012 ILoI, 13, Wolf de G{a:}nger

Crud!  Commentary was closed while I was finishing an argument!

http://oscar.sca.org/index.php?action=100&loi=1290#13

Furthermore, if Wikipedia be believed, it's only some historians who believe
that Rollo was Ganger Hrolf.

But posit that the names Ganger Hrolf and Hrolf Ganger are nevertheless
protected in those forms.

Ganger Hrolf versus Wolf de(r) G{a:}nger:
http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/sena.html#PN3C1 is Changes to Two Syllables.
"Names are substantially different if changes in sound and appearance affect
at least two syllables (including adding, removing, or reordering them). ...
Changes to any part of the name count, including articles and
prepositions.", and an example calls John de Aston clear of John Asson for
adding a syllable and changing another syllable. So I see two diffs,
reversal and adding "de(r)".

Hrolf Ganger versus Wolf de(r) G{a:}nger: I think I could argue it's clear
by any of the three sections under PN.3.C, but it looks easiest to go with
http://heraldry.sca.org/laurel/sena.html#PN3C3

    3. Substantial Change of Single-Syllable Name Phrase: Two names
    with a comparable single-syllable name phrase are eligible for
    this rule.  A pair of name phrases are said to be comparable if
    they both have the same position in the name, such as given name
    or first byname.  Comparable single-syllable name phrases are
    generally substantially different in sound if a group of adjacent
    vowels or of adjacent consonants within a word are completely
    changed, so that it shares no sound in common.  ... The change of
    a single letter is sufficient for two eligible name phrases to be
    different in appearance, as such name phrases are quite short.
    ... Anne Best is substantially different from Anne West.  ...

"Hr" or "R" to "W" alone looks good enough to trigger this. I also pronounce
the "o" in "Rolf" rather like "ah", but the "o" in "Wolf"
more like "uh", but R<->W looks easier to argue.

Danihel de Lincolino
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