[ANSTHRLD] Conflict Check: Or, on a pile gules a lion and a stag combatant counter-changed

[Bob Wade]

Working on Robert's lozenge proposal led me on a train of thought regarding older submissions.
 
A well drawn pile, per chevron inverted and chaussé should be readily distinguishable using the current device and badge submission forms.  I'm not sure that's the case in old badge (done on a roundel) and device submissions done on lozenges.
 
That's not applicable in this instance, but it may be a consideration for potential visual conflict in other submissions.

--- On Thu, 5/31/12, Bob Wade <logiosophia at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Bob Wade <logiosophia at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Conflict Check: Or, on a pile gules a lion and a stag combatant counter-changed
To: " Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA Inc.Heralds List" <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
Date: Thursday, May 31, 2012, 6:50 PM


I believe you check a pile versus chaussé (and chaussé versus per chevron inverted), but not a pile versus per chevron inverted.

--- On Thu, 5/31/12, Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com> wrote:


From: Tim McDaniel <tmcd at panix.com>
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Conflict Check: Or, on a pile gules a lion and a stag combatant counter-changed
To: "Heralds List, Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
Date: Thursday, May 31, 2012, 3:13 PM


On Thu, 31 May 2012, Bob Wade <logiosophia at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Note that "Or a pile gules and overall a lion and a stag combattant"
> has a conflict versus "Or, a pile gules" (Chandos [Important non-SCA
> arms], Device, Dec 1994). There's only 1 CD under the current rules
> for adding the overall charge group under RfS X.4c.
>
> "Per chevron inverted gules and Or, a lion and a stag combattant"
> seemed clear When I checked last month.

I believe that that would have the same conflict -- that a pile must
be also be checked as per chevron inverted, and if there's a conflict
under either blazon, it is returned ("you can't blazon your way out of
a conflict").

Daniel Lindocolina
-- 
Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com
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