[ANSTHRLD] Two-colored device help.

[Adam R Thompson]

The field division is what makes the color combo legal. My own arms are "Per fess sable and gules, an eagle displayed in fess and a Celtic cross Or"

That said as long as he's doing field divisions that is fine, he would need a charge to balance it and it would have to be a metal. 


Lord Richard Stewart of Saint Andrews

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On Apr 10, 2013, at 2:06, Brendan Haiduk <bhaiduk at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello all,
> I'm fairly new to my role as local herald, so please take it easy on me if
> there is an obvious answer I'm missing. I'm doing a consultation with a
> client who would like a device that uses sable and gules only. I have
> explained to him the color-on-color rule, which he now understands.
> However, I would like to try and find a way to register heraldry that he is
> excited about. So, the following device is what I was able to come up with:
> "Per saltire sable and gules, a bordure counterchanged." First, is that
> even legal?
> Next I tried to conflict check it. Here is where I looked.
> Field division - Per saltire - Sable - and gules: where I looked for
> anything with a bordure.
> Field division - Per saltire - Gules - and sable: where I looked for
> anything with a bordure.
> Field division - Per saltire - Sable - and (any color): where I looked for
> anything with a bordure counterchanged.
> Field division - Per saltire - Gules - and (any color): where I looked for
> anything with a bordure counterchanged.
> The only thing I found is:
> Otho of Berwick <http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_name.cgi?p=Otho%20of%20Berwick>
> 
>   - The following device associated with this name was registered in May
>   of 1987 (via An
> Tir)<http://oanda.sca.org/oanda_date.cgi?y1=1987&m1=May&y2=1987&m2=May&kN=checked>
>   :
>   *Per saltire sable and argent, a compass star within a bordure
>   counterchanged.*
> 
> Which should have a substantial change due to the addition of a primary
> charge group. Does that all seem correct? Did I look in all the correct
> places?
> I realize this could be changed to be *per fess, per pale, per bend,
> quarterly, etc, *but *per saltire* seemed the least likely to conflict.
> Do you guys have any other suggestions for developing two-colored heraldry
> within our rule set?
> Thanks in advance for your help,
> Micolay Haiduk
> Gate's Edge Pursuviant
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