[ANSTHRLD] Two-colored device help.

[Bob Wade]

Thanks, it was probably von Radenhausen I (mis)remembered.

--- On Thu, 4/11/13, Wendy Erisman <wenthlyan at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Wendy Erisman <wenthlyan at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [ANSTHRLD] Two-colored device help.
To: "heralds at lists.ansteorra.org" <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
Date: Thursday, April 11, 2013, 2:36 PM

Tostig wrote:
 
I recall seeing at least one counter-changed sable/gules primary charge(s) and field division in German armory while trying to find support for a submission from the Candlemas Consultation Table year before last -- Something on the order of either "Per pale sable and gules two beasts counterchanged" or "Per pale sable and gules a beast counterchanged" Will see if I have time this weekend.

I am working on a statistical analysis of some 2500 devices from Siebmacher that I hope will make it easier to do this sort of research. I'm not done yet, but I can identify several examples of color-on-color counterchanging, as follows:
 
Plate 52: 
Per fess gules and azure, a lion rampant counterchanged; von Adelsbach
Plate 161:  Plate 162: 
Per pale sable and gules, two hooks palewise, points outward, counterchanged; die Zimmer 
Per pale gules and sable, a pair of arms embowed proper, vested counterchanged, maintaining a crown, in chief a mullet Or; von Berbisdorf
Plate 182:
Per pale gules and sable, an eagle displayed counterchanged; von Radenhausen
 
These devices share a number of characteristics that might help establish a pattern for a regional style exception. All counterchange gules with either sable or azure. All use a primary charge--either alone or with a second charge of the same type. The field divisions used--per fess and per pale--are by far the most common in Germanic armory. The charges that are actually divided--lion and eagle--are extremely common in Germanic armory while the others fit into common patterns of tools and body parts. 
 
For those interested, I intend to teach a class based on this analysis of Siebmacher at KWHSS in June.
 
Best,
Gwenllian
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