[ANSTHRLD] Conflict checking and default for daffodils

[Tim McDaniel]

On Mon, 13 May 2013, Herald of Hellsgate
<herald at hellsgate.ansteorra.org> wrote:
> I have a client wishing to use daffodils in her badge.  According to
> the O and A, these are in the category of trumpet shaped flowers but
> I have not been able to find a period depiction of one.  Would it be
> drawn from the top (in which case it looks like a rose) or from the
> side (in which case it looks like a lily).

http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2002/06/02-06cl.html

     FROM WREATH: Daffodils

     After reading the discussion provided by the College, it seems
     appropriate to rule that the daffodil, like the lotus, has no default
     posture. The posture of the flower should be blazoned explicitly, such
     as affronty or bell to chief. Daffodils addorsed are daffodils with
     the bells facing away from each other.

     Daffodils are not slipped and leaved by default. The flower portion of
     the daffodil may be referred to either as a daffodil or as a daffodil
     blossom.

http://heraldry.sca.org/loar/2011/09/11-09lar.html#128

   Nest ffynnon. Device. Argent, on a mullet of six points azure a
   sexfoil Or and a bordure rayonny vert.

       This is returned for redraw, for multiple issues. Section
       VII.7.a of the Rules for Submissions requires that "Elements
       must be recognizable solely from their appearance." ...

       Blazoned on the Letter of Intent as a _daffodil blossom
       affronty_, a daffodil is a trumpet-shaped flower, and loses its
       identifiability when seen affronty instead of in profile. If the
       submitter wishes to use a six petaled flower, please advise her
       to consider a sexfoil or a six-petaled rose.

You don't *need* a period depiction of flora and fauna from Europe,
though bonus points if you find one (perhaps under "narcissus"?)
Might check via http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daffodil to get a clearly
European breed, especially if it was a common one.  For example, what
we think of as a "dogwood blossom" is purely New World; period people
had quite a different notion.

Danielis Lindocolina
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Tim McDaniel, tmcd at panix.com