[ANSTHRLD] Stolen Valor? Oldtimers' help needed!

[Druinne de Salesberie]

Yes, I did retire that system. 

There were multiple reasons, not the least of which was sustaining the exams and reviewing exam content on a regular basis. By my time as Star, they had not been administered for a while.

So, if one tested, and one passed, one has a claim to that designation, IMHO. 

Tressure should have in their files a list of those ranks, the extant copies of the exams and a list of the individuals who passed them, perhaps?

In any event, I have long thought Galen to be an extraordinary herald and a champion of heraldic display. 

Druinne




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> On Aug 5, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Joseph Percer <jpercer at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The levels in place at my entry into the college (2003) were pursuivant at
> large,  pursuivant extraordinary,  and herald at large.  At least when I
> started,  Herald Ex was still associated with personal titles. I believe
> Druinne retired the practice of rank by examination.
> 
> Andrewe
>> On Aug 5, 2014 2:42 PM, "Crandall" <4fooles.matters at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Long ago and far away (when I was Tressure) there was an involved
>> discussion as to the various ranks in the Ansteorran College.
>> This particular discussion was at the AHSS that was held at Ft. Hood, I
>> forget the group that sponsored the event.
>> Adelicia was there, along with Daud, Robin and several other Olde Pharts of
>> the College.
>> The three levels were Cornet, Pursuivant and Herald.
>> At that time you were either in a titled staff position (Tressure, Calisto,
>> Star, etc.) or you were not. (Extraordinary) We took the literal meaning of
>> being out (extra) of the ordinary (not ordained, or not in an office).
>> 
>> I believe that the title system was changed later on, as several of us were
>> named HE as we stepped down from various positions and did not take another
>> Heraldic office. PE was also a title used for the same purpose if the
>> individual was not ranked as a Herald.
>> 
>> I do not know when it was changed.
>> 
>> Crandall, Herald
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Tomas Niallagain <siortomas at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Your Excellency, are you possibly confusing with Pursuivant
>> Extraordinary.
>>> Which was a title in Ansteorra only, at that time?
>>>> On Aug 5, 2014 11:20 AM, "Paul Mitchell" <sirgalen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I find myself in a very delicate position.  I think I’ve screwed up,
>> on a
>>>> matter that I consider important.
>>>> 
>>>> It’s my honest belief that, in her days as Star Principal Herald,
>>> Mistress
>>>> Rosalia named me a herald extraordinary.
>>>> 
>>>> But I cannot for the life of me recall when or by whom I was told that.
>>> I
>>>> only remember that it happened after I’d gone to the Midrealm.
>>>> 
>>>> The Ansteorran Gazettes from that period don’t mention it.  Mistress
>>>> Rosalia doesn’t remember whether she did or not; she describes that
>>> period
>>>> as “another life time ago".  My protege, HL Timothy of Glastinbury, who
>>> was
>>>> Zodiacus Herald at the time, doesn’t remember it.
>>>> 
>>>> I now have more cause to doubt the accuracy of my memory than to have
>>>> confidence in it.  Is there anyone who remembers back 12 years who has
>> an
>>>> independent memory of this honor, or could even help me to document it?
>>>> 
>>>> If I’m really not a herald extraordinary, that’s OK.  Except for this:
>>>> I’ve been telling people for years that I was.
>>>> 
>>>> I am mortified.  I am more embarrassed than I can express to have
>> labored
>>>> so long under such a misconception.  I ask the College, its officers
>> and
>>>> especially all heralds extraordinary, to please accept my sincerest
>>>> apologies for this error of mine.
>>>> 
>>>> - Galen of Bristol
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>> pleasure, when one is worn out with age, is not, as the poet said, making
>> money, but having the respect of one's fellow men.
>> -Thucydides
>> When you face a liar, look not first at the lie itself, but try hard to
>> learn more of the liar and reason out just why he tells such a falsehood
>> before you render judgment upon him. And if you find that liar is motivated
>> by malice and spite, then render that judgment which causes his doom.
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