[ANSTHRLD] Rarely Used Charges spreadsheet updated to Apr 2014 LOAR

[S L Niemann]

Hello!
This for some reason went into my spam, which I check once a month or so.

Did you want this information added to the spreadsheet? Listing something
different? We the college are still (usually) marking the torii an SFPP,
there is a later registration month that so notes it: March 2014 LOAR.

There are two registrations including torii gates and they both note:

"There is a step from period practice for the use of a torii gate."

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On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Bob Wade <logiosophia at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I can't see where the following Precedent has been overturned:
>
> "The torii is still permitted in Society heraldry, due to its modern
> familiarity among Occidentals (for instance, the word is found in Webster's
> Collegiate Dictionary) and its valid reblazon as a Japanese gateway.
> However, since no heraldic difference can normally be obtained from
> regional drawing style, we grant no difference between a Japanese gateway
> (torii) and a standard heraldic gate --- any more than we grant difference
> between an arch and a dolmen." (Ihashi Hidezo, June, 1993, pg. 22)
>
> However,
>
> Crínán mac Eoin.  Device. Quarterly gules and sable, a bridge of three
> spans and issuant from base a demi-sun Or.
> This device is not in conflict with the device of Asa Hito, Vert, a
> demi-sun issuant from base within and conjoined to a torii gate Or. There
> is one CD for the change of field, and one CD for the difference between a
> torii gate and a bridge of three spans. (LoAR Nov 2011, A-Ansteorra)
>
> And it should be noted ...
>
> A.4. Armory Individually Attested Patterns
>
> A. Definitions: Any armorial design that does not fit within our core
> style rules may still be registered if it can be documented as following a
> pattern of period practice within the armorial style of a single time and
> place within the temporal scope of the Society. This time and place may be
> in Europe or may be from a non-European period armorial tradition, such as
> Islamic or Japanese heraldry. We call such a design an Individually
> Attested Pattern. All elements in an Individually Attested Pattern must be
> found in that single time and place, including charges, arrangement of
> charge groups, and lines of division. Documentation under the Individually
> Attested Pattern rules does not exempt a design from conflict, presumption,
> or offense rules.
>
> For example, Sable, a torii gate Or between three panthers argent, spotted
> of many tinctures would not be registerable as an Individually Attested
> Pattern, as it mixes charges from both Japanese and England. (SENA
> http://heraldry.sca.org/sena.html#A4)
>
> Tostig
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sat, 6/28/14, S L Niemann <slniemann at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Subject: [ANSTHRLD] Rarely Used Charges spreadsheet updated to Apr 2014
> LOAR
>  To: "SCA Heralds List" <sca-hrlds at lists.andrew.cmu.edu>, "Ansteorra
> Heralds List" <heralds at lists.ansteorra.org>
>  Date: Saturday, June 28, 2014, 3:07 PM
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