HERB - Re: herbalist V1 #471

dragondancer drgndncr at uswest.net
Sat Jul 15 14:08:55 PDT 2000


camphor has a medium brown bark with striations of lighter brown...what you
have may indeed be camphor....I had a camphor tree in florida right in my
back yard...it smelled like vics when the bark or leaves were bruised...
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>
> herbalist           Thursday, June 15 2000           Volume 01 : Number
471
>
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> In this issue:
>
>     Re: HERB - Plant Identification
>     Re: HERB - Plant Identification
>     Re: HERB - Lynette's Letter.
>     Re: HERB - ADHD
>     Re: HERB - Lynette's Letter.
>     Re: HERB - Lynette's Letter.
>     HERB - Re: herbalist V1 #470
>     Re: HERB - Plant Identification
>     HERB - Silverfish Problem
>     HERB - Re:St. John's Wort
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> Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 08:57:13 -0700
> From: Katherine Blackthorne <kblackthorne at midtown.net>
> Subject: Re: HERB - Plant Identification
>
> Hmmm, I'm tempted to agree with Corwyn, since here in CA I've seen
eucalyptus
> with just about any shape leaf you care to think of, and they're this kind
of
> greyish (OK, the grey tints optional) medium-green.  But the way you
describe
> them sounds like it does NOT have a central woody stalk....and it smells
like
> Vics vapor rub.... anyone know what camphor looks like?  (Actually, I
think
> that may be a tree, too.)  Hmmm....
>
>
> sunshinegirl wrote:
>
> > > Offhand I'd say it almost sounds like eucalyptus, except that has
rounded
> > > leaves. At least the ones I've seen do. Any particular shade of green?
> > Where
> > > do you live?
> > >
> > > Corwyn
> >
> > This is definately a plant, as opposed to a tree.  I live in Arkansas.
It
> > is a medium green - too dark to be spring green, too light to be forest
> > green.
> >
> > Melandra
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> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 21:38:02 -0700
> From: Katherine Blackthorne <kblackthorne at midtown.net>
> Subject: Re: HERB - Plant Identification
>
> GypsyRomany at aol.com wrote:
>
> > Marijuana? ;)
>
> Um, I believe the Indian Hemp plant has "five-fingered" leaves, not
"leaflets
> three".  And would you really say it smells like Vic's?--Katherine
>
> >
> >
> > If you have a local nursery, you could try asking them...or if you've
got a
> > pic or drawing of the plant...
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> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:01:11 -0700
> From: Katherine Blackthorne <kblackthorne at midtown.net>
> Subject: Re: HERB - Lynette's Letter.
>
> meaduewolf at juno.com wrote:
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> > >  (Will some  one please slap me)
> > > Lynette
> >
> >
> > Oh Lynette....heres soemthing for you..........
> > SLAP!!!!!!
> > There feel better?
> > LOL
> > You did ask........  :)
> > Rhiannon
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> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:18:28 -0700
> From: Katherine Blackthorne <kblackthorne at midtown.net>
> Subject: Re: HERB - ADHD
>
> I know that the standard treatment for ADD is stimulants.
Counter-intuitive, but it seems to work.  My fiancé has ADD (no H), and I
> know that a cup of coffee enables him to sit still & pay attention longer.
>
> I've also known of several mothers who've taken their kids off Ridilin &
put them on Mountain Dew -- they claimed it was easier to get
> into them & had fewer adverse side effects.  So in keeping with the spirit
of the list...black tea?  (Taking into account, of course,
> any meds they may be on.  Don't want to mess up dosages.)
>
> - --Katherine
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> KilrRabbit at aol.com wrote:
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> > Does anyone know of anything that can help with ADHD -attention deficit
hyperactive disorder? I have a friend who has 3 kids with it.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be great.
> >
> > Thanks,
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> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 06:56:02 -0400
> From: meaduewolf at juno.com
> Subject: Re: HERB - Lynette's Letter.
>
> I would never insult the Lady Lynette. I was only joking back with
> her...understanding where she was coming from.
> I love everyone's posts on here. And I would hope that if anyone has a
> problem with me and what I post that they would say so themselves.
>
> Lady Lynette;
> If I have insulted you or hurt you in _anyway_ I deeply and honestly
> apologize.
> Please forgive.
>
> Rhiannon
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> On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:01:11 -0700 Katherine Blackthorne
> <kblackthorne at midtown.net> writes:
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> >
> > meaduewolf at juno.com wrote:
> >
> > > >  (Will some  one please slap me)
> > > > Lynette
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh Lynette....heres soemthing for you..........
> > > SLAP!!!!!!
> > > There feel better?
> > > LOL
> > > You did ask........  :)
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> > --Katherine
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> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 04:52:48 -0700
> From: "Lynette" <lklc at prodigy.net>
> Subject: Re: HERB - Lynette's Letter.
>
> Dearest Rhiannon,
>     I have never been insulted by you or anyone else on this list.
Please,
> please, don't feel that you might have.   Perhaps, if I had said, "Thanks,
I
> needed that." You might have been better understood.   In any case do not
> fear.  We were having some punch happy fun.  We were on the same
wavelength.
>  My dear champion Katherine,
>     I thank you for coming to my defense, in this case I fear your were
> mistaken.
>
> Lynette
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> Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 08:14:46 -0700
> From: "dragondancer" <drgndncr at uswest.net>
> Subject: HERB - Re: herbalist V1 #470
>
> one can also try st.johns wort....it calms me down very well and I am only
> just Hyper...:)
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> >
> > herbalist           Wednesday, June 14 2000           Volume 01 : Number
> 470
> >
> >
> >
> > In this issue:
> >
> >     HERB - Note
> >     Re: HERB - Note
> >     HERB - ADHD
> >     Re: HERB - ADHD
> >     Re: HERB - ADHD
> >     Re: HERB - Lynette-thanks
> >     Re: HERB - ADHD
> >
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> > Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 01:03:05 EDT
> > From: RAISYA at aol.com
> > Subject: HERB - Note
> >
> > Hi, all,
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> > Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:15:49 -0400
> > From: "Wolf Kestris Rowanwood" <kestris at earthlink.net>
> > Subject: Re: HERB - Note
> >
> > I haven't been getting near as many as I normally did. I recently
switched
> > ISPs but I think you took care of that...
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> > - -Wolf
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> > From: <RAISYA at aol.com>
> > To: <herbalist at ansteorra.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 1:03 AM
> > Subject: HERB - Note
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> > > Hi, all,
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> > Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:00:42 EDT
> > From: KilrRabbit at aol.com
> > Subject: HERB - ADHD
> >
> > Does anyone know of anything that can help with ADHD -attention deficit
> hyperactive disorder? I have a friend who has 3 kids with it.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be great.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Victoria
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> > Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:33:26 -0500
> > From: "sunshinegirl" <sunshinegirl at steward-net.com>
> > Subject: Re: HERB - ADHD
> >
> > From: <KilrRabbit at aol.com>
> >
> > > Does anyone know of anything that can help with ADHD -attention
deficit
> > hyperactive disorder? I have a friend who has 3 kids with it.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions would be great.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Victoria
> >
> > How old are they?   Have they been formally diagnosed?   I have heard
too
> > many children being diagnosed with Hyperactivity, when they were being
> > perfectly normal - especially toddlers.  There is a study I heard about
in
> a
> > class - A marine was given the task of shadowing a normal toddler and
> doing
> > exactly what the child did.   He was totally exhausted within less than
an
> > hour, and the kid was still going strong.
> >
> > Having said that, if they are truly ADHD, she might try giving them
> coffee.
> > My sister-in-law had twins who were ADHD, by the time they were three,
the
> > DR prescribed coffee on a daily basis, and it had a wonderful effect.
> > It seems that studies have shown that with many ADHD people, caffeine
has
> > the opposite effect - it calms rather than stimulates.
> >
> > Melandra, who unfortunately does not have the documentation handy...
> >
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> > Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:07:56 GMT
> > From: "stephanie stuart" <azaleaviola at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: HERB - ADHD
> >
> > i have also heard of the caffeine thing helping. one test is to give the
> > children nothing but juices for a day and see if they get very
hyper,then
> > give them a coke to see if they calm down. i know it sounds a little
> > experimental but i heard it from a mom who faces this with her
> child.-azalea
> >
> >
> > >From: "sunshinegirl" <sunshinegirl at steward-net.com>
> > >Reply-To: herbalist at ansteorra.org
> > >To: <herbalist at ansteorra.org>
> > >Subject: Re: HERB - ADHD
> > >Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:33:26 -0500
> > >
> > >From: <KilrRabbit at aol.com>
> > >
> > > > Does anyone know of anything that can help with ADHD -attention
> deficit
> > >hyperactive disorder? I have a friend who has 3 kids with it.
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions would be great.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Victoria
> > >
> > >How old are they?   Have they been formally diagnosed?   I have heard
too
> > >many children being diagnosed with Hyperactivity, when they were being
> > >perfectly normal - especially toddlers.  There is a study I heard about
> in
> > >a
> > >class - A marine was given the task of shadowing a normal toddler and
> doing
> > >exactly what the child did.   He was totally exhausted within less than
> an
> > >hour, and the kid was still going strong.
> > >
> > >Having said that, if they are truly ADHD, she might try giving them
> coffee.
> > >My sister-in-law had twins who were ADHD, by the time they were three,
> the
> > >DR prescribed coffee on a daily basis, and it had a wonderful effect.
> > >It seems that studies have shown that with many ADHD people, caffeine
has
> > >the opposite effect - it calms rather than stimulates.
> > >
> > >Melandra, who unfortunately does not have the documentation handy...
> > >
> > >
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> > Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:15:36 GMT
> > From: "stephanie stuart" <azaleaviola at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: HERB - Lynette-thanks
> >
> > thank you all for such a supportive response! i tried the yogurt thing
and
> > found that it faded all of my frekles! i also have to agree about the
diet
> > thing over the past couple of days i have been avoiding the fattier
foods
> > and my skin does feel better. i also found a lady who home-makes soaps
and
> > got a goats milk block of soap that really makes a difference in the oil
> so
> > far. lastly, i went to GNC and purchased some vitamins specifically
> > formulated for hair,skin, and nails. we shall see. while we are on the
> > face-does anybody know how to get rid of dark circles? i don't mean bags
> or
> > even circles caused from being tired or allergies. my skin is very thin
> > under my eyes and they are dark. love to you all! azalea
> >
> >
> > >From: "Lady Ysabeau of Prague" <ysabeau at austin.rr.com>
> > >Reply-To: herbalist at ansteorra.org
> > >To: <herbalist at ansteorra.org>
> > >Subject: Re: HERB - Lynette-thanks
> > >Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 21:43:29 -0500
> > >
> > >I found a great company that actually puts their money where their
mouth
> is
> > >when it comes to using herbs and essential oils. Origins (they are at
> > >Dillards and Foleys here in Texas  and online) has an entire line of
skin
> > >care products that have essential oils as their base. They aren't like
> > >those
> > >companies (no names mentioned) who claim to be herbal based but the
> > >essential oils are just there for the name. The main ingredients are
> > >essential oils with just enough of the other stuff to keep them stable.
I
> > >love their products.  Plus they are very reasonable. For about $40,
you
> > >can
> > >get the basic skin care set. It will last me about 9 months. The other
> > >stuff
> > >can get pricey but I think they are well worth it. The aromatherapy
alone
> > >will get you. They just came out with a moisturizer with a sunscreen
that
> > >smells divine in the morning. It is citrusy and is just what I need
> before
> > >I
> > >walk out the door in the morning.  No, I don't work for them but I have
> > >been
> > >using their products for years and I like their philosophy.
> > >
> > >
> > >Ysabeau of Prague
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "stephanie stuart" <azaleaviola at hotmail.com>
> > >To: <herbalist at ansteorra.org>
> > >Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 5:44 PM
> > >Subject: HERB - Lynette-thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > > thanks for the advice, yeah i was hoping that i would grow out of
the
> > >greasy
> > > > skin thing but i am 25 now and still the queen of crisco. anyway,you
> > > > mentioned avoiding soap because of the alkalines-cool! i do have a
> > >question
> > > > about that though-can i find a product that is an acidic soap? you
> > >mentioned
> > > > sour cream and citrus things help-would thier properties be negated
in
> a
> > > > soap? you have been very helpful and i appreciate your time. i am
> kinda
> > >lazy
> > > > though and am hoping for something i could purchase instead of make.
> do
> > >you
> > > > know of anything out there i could just buy?thanks again-Azalea
> > >
> > >
> >
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> > Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:43:44 -0400
> > From: "Chevelle" <chevel at mint.net>
> > Subject: Re: HERB - ADHD
> >
> > An accurate diagnoses would include a medical history of family members
> > looking for those with ADHD and other strangely related illnesses
> including
> > narcalepsy of all things, and bi-polar syndrome.
> >
> > My son's been diagnosed with ADHD for 7 years.  I've had friends give
> their
> > children chamomile teas and they swear by them, but I've found that
> caffeine
> > does help my 13 year old.  He has a cup of coffee every day before
school
> > and again with his lunch. LOL  It sounds strange I know but keep in mind
> > that Ritalin, the most often prescribed medication, is after all an
> > amphetamine, and stimulates a certain area of the brain to make a
> chemical..
> > THAT chemical is what 'slows' down the person with ADHD. ( btw.  someone
> CAN
> > be ADD..  and have impulsive and inattentive difficulties without the
> > hyperactivity )
> >
> > IMHO behavor modification is wonderful.  Email me privately if you like
> and
> > I can give more information about what I've learned/studied about ADHD
and
> > perhaps I can give you some other suggestions and/or books for your
> friend.
> >
> > - ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <KilrRabbit at aol.com>
> > To: <herbalist at ansteorra.org>
> > Sent: June 13, 2000 12:00 PM
> > Subject: HERB - ADHD
> >
> >
> > > Does anyone know of anything that can help with ADHD -attention
deficit
> > hyperactive disorder? I have a friend who has 3 kids with it.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions would be great.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Victoria
> > >
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> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:22:37 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Jenne Heise <jenne at tulgey.browser.net>
> Subject: Re: HERB - Plant Identification
>
> > Hmmm, I'm tempted to agree with Corwyn, since here in CA I've seen
eucalyptus
> > with just about any shape leaf you care to think of, and they're this
kind of
> > greyish (OK, the grey tints optional) medium-green.  But the way you
describe
> > them sounds like it does NOT have a central woody stalk....and it smells
like
> > Vics vapor rub.... anyone know what camphor looks like?  (Actually, I
think
> > that may be a tree, too.)  Hmmm....
>
> Well, camphor plant has multiple grayish stalks with fringey leaves.
>
> Could the plant in question be the one people market as the 'Vick's Vapor
> Rub' herb?
>
> Jadwiga Zajaczkowa, mka Jennifer Heise       jenne at tulgey.browser.net
> disclaimer: i speak for no-one and no-one speaks for me.
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> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:11:16 -0400
> From: Warren & Meredith Harmon <corwynsca at juno.com>
> Subject: HERB - Silverfish Problem
>
> Help!
>
> I just moved, and apparently there were a few silverfish living in the
> apartment before us.  I've only seen full-grown adults so far, but I
> don't want to wait around till the nymphs start hatching.  And the stores
> aren't helpful - years ago you could get silverfish traps that you
> dropped and forgot about; now they want to sell you sprays, sprays, and
> more aerosols.  Not good for an asthmatic, much less anyone else's lungs!
>  Is there anything herbal that can help??
>
> - -Caro
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> Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 21:06:35 -0400
> From: ladygrania at juno.com
> Subject: HERB - Re:St. John's Wort
>
> Please be aware that the word has just come out that St. John's wort
> counteracts oral contraceptives, rendering them ineffective.  Similar
> action occurs with antibiotics.  The end of the story made a crude joke
> about St. John's wort working for post-partum depression.  Whatever.  A
> word to the wise should be sufficient.
>
> Grania
>
> On Fri, 14 Jul 2000 08:14:46 -0700 "dragondancer" <drgndncr at uswest.net>
> writes:
> > one can also try st.johns wort....it calms me down very well and I am
> > only
> > just Hyper...:)
>
>
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