HERB - OP: Kava & Valerian for pets question (fwD) (fwd)

[Jenne Heise]

Forwarding Magdalena's response and further questions

> From tsersen at biovalidity.com  Tue Mar 27 09:46:18 2001
> Message-ID: <C1783F5B77DDD311A29F0050DAC4D53B0BE678 at ELMO>
> From: "Sersen, Tara (BVI)" <tsersen at biovalidity.com>
> To: "'Jenne Heise'" <jenne at mail.browser.net>
> Subject: RE: HERB - OP: Kava & Valerian for pets question (fwD) (fwd)
> 
> Thank you!  I do note here, though:  Acetominophen and aspirin are toxic to
> cats, but not dogs; Aspirin is just fine for a dog.  We used to give aspirin
> to an arthritic hound regularly, on the advice of our vet.  Antihistamines,
> on the other hand, can be tricky for either and I wouldn't ever risk them on
> dog or cat.  An interesting addendum to the "works differently in pets" part
> - I have steriods for my 12-pound cat's skin allergies that the vet tells me
> could kill a human!
> 
> Re: Suzanne's question below, the pets in question are an 11 pound cat and
> 58 pound dog.  I did buy an herbal product from PetSmart (and tried it last
> night with no ill effects) using "Valerian 4X", but I assumed that "4X"
> meant it was in homeopathic concentration and thus I couldn't use it as a
> guide for dosage outside that product.  Since I wasn't sure if anything in
> that product would do much, I figured I'd research using valerian directly.
> However, it did seem to relieve some anxiety safely, so I'll keep using it a
> few more days and see how things turn out.
> 
> One webpage that I read (sponsered by one of the common herb and vitamin
> companies, Nature's Sunshine,) recommended dividing the pets weight into
> your weight to derive dosage; but, given that things work differently in
> pets and humans, I didn't like that idea.  If the herb in question were
> echinacea, that advice would kill a cat.
> 
> Thanks again!
> Magdalena
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jenne Heise [mailto:jenne at mail.browser.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 9:33 AM
> > To: tsersen at biovalidity.com
> > Subject: Re: HERB - OP: Kava & Valerian for pets question (fwD) (fwd)
> > 
> > 
> > > To: herbalist at ansteorra.org
> > > Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:20:03 -0600
> > > Subject: Re: HERB - OP: Kava & Valerian for pets question (fwD)
> > > From: Sue Rogers <wjwakefield at juno.com>
> > > 
> > > when I had a cat with allergy problems, I used to give him 
> > 1/4 or 1/8 the
> > > adult dose of antihistamines, and it worked ok with no side 
> > effects.  If
> > > you can find dosages for children, compare those to the 
> > size of the pet. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > verify that these are safe for the specified pet.  some 
> > medicines that
> > > work on people are different in animals.  for examples, aspirin and
> > > acetominophen are toxic to dogs and cats, opiates act like speed for
> > > horses and cats.  on the other hand, birth control pills 
> > were originally
> > > tried on cats...
> > > 
> > > valerian can lower blood pressure, so I would be cautious 
> > using it in
> > > small animals.  kava, even in humans can be a bit 
> > unpredictable at times.
> > >  what kind of animal and what kind of problem would be useful
> > > information.
> > > 
> > > Suzanna, herbalist, Barony of the Steppes, Kingdom of 
> > Ansteorra (Dallas,
> > > TX)
> > > 
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> > Jadwiga Zajaczkowa, mka Jennifer Heise	      
> jenne at mail.browser.net
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