[Herbalist] Mustard

foxryde foxryde at foxryde.com
Mon Feb 10 14:47:36 PST 2003


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Sounds yummy!

As long as the emulsion is acidic - I forget how acidic, you will kill or
inhibit the botulism spores as I understand it.  There are some articles on
Google about how acidic to kill the little buggers.  Some body wrote one
about soaking your cloves of garlic in vinegar for "x" amount of time to
kill the spores, then safely using them.  I don't know enough to evaluate
this, but it sounds reasonable.

Also, this wouldn't be oily enough to seal the air out (anaerobic) which is
one of the requirements for botulism, again, as I understand it.

I am not a bacteria expert, so research and draw your own conclusions.

Mustard is high sulfur, too, which is quite inhibiting to
buggies.  Although, a few years ago, researchers found some bacteria living
in these high temp sulfur vents in the ocean - it just goes to show you how
adaptable they are.

Back to packing for Estrella!

Leonora



At 04:21 PM 2/10/03 -0600, you wrote:

>Okay, so along this same thread...I made some mustard recently. (Yes,
>like you eat on hot dogs.) One batch I has garlic in it. The mustard
>recipe was basically 1 C mustard powder (made from mustard seed), 3 oz
>vinegar, 3 oz water, 1/2 tsp salt, 1 TBSP honey, and 1-2 tsp mashed
>garlic. Mustard is very hot when first prepared and mellows as it ages.
>For spicy mustard age appx. 4 weeks, for mild age appx 8 weeks
>*unrefrigerated*, since refrigeration pretty well stops the
>mellowing/aging process. So the garlic mustard is not safe?
>
>Somehow I got confused on what's safe or not....
>
>Sioned of Northkeep
>Lost..as usual! <G>
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> > [mailto:herbalist-admin at ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of foxryde
> > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:11 PM
> > To: herbalist at ansteorra.org
> > Subject: [Herbalist] Bacteria
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> > While I appreciate your comments about yummy garlic oil (make
> > and use right away), the issue I was addressing was bacterial
> > growth in water and oil mixes.  I was talking about creams or
> > lotions (water or water infusion, oil, beeswax and some emulsifier).
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