[Loch-Ruadh] OT Estrella War and Arizona imports

Tue Dec 17 08:25:06 PST 2002

Sean, you know what I like to do when I drive in Michigan and Minnesota?

I like to go up there and stop in the middle of the F****** road and stare
at stuff.  Then I like to wave at them when they flip me off.

You'd think since they come to Arizona every year that they would know what
a freaking cactus looks like or that our middle lane is a turning lane NOT a
median to sit on to get back into traffic.  Lets not mention how long it
takes you to grocery shop or anything else mundane.

I had a guy say to me I should be happy because he is stimulating the
economy by coming to visit.  I don't own a retail shop, I don't work in the
service industry and my husband is in the defense industry so how the
snowbirds affect my personal economy well I just cannot figure that one out.

They also crowd the ERs, and keep the doctors overly booked up in the
winter.

I shouldn't be so spiteful though, because my own aging is inevitable!  I do
know this much I will not be going south like everyone else.

And the mall you speak of, that is just north of where I lived.  We lived on
Power and Guadalupe Roads.  There is now a 6A highschool there.  Neat name
Highland High!  I liked that.

Williams AFB is now a commercial base and they are expanding it.  It is
quite hilarious to see huge jets flying over brand new houses.  Queen Creek
has exploded in population.  There is now a master planned community there
sort of like Dobson Ranch.  It is wall to wall houses straight up power road
from Williams base from the Red mountain in Mesa.  It is also wall to wall
houses from about Signal Butte all the way west out past Cooper Road etc.

It is huge out there.  As for low income housing, neighborhoods turn so fast
in Phoenix area.  Unless you pay a high amount for your house, you have no
guarantee how it will go.  You can have a home the same size as your home,
the kids go to same school.  The other house can be just across the street
and be valued 50k more.  Its silly.

Oh yes the hospital you mentioned.  Desert Samaritan's maternity ward there
sees about 600 babies being born a month!

I am sure people here in Weatherford resent me just as much as I resented
the winter visitors.  I bet lightning is going to strike me now for being
this negative!

Suzanne

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Cantley <yukon505 at hotmail.com>
To: <loch-ruadh at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Loch-Ruadh] Estrella War and Arizona imports

> It is interesting to me to hear about Arizona imports.  I was stationed at
> Williams AFB east of Chandler from Feb. 1975 to Nov. 1981.  My oldest son
> which most of you have yet to meet as he is still in the Navy was born in
> the hospital on Williams AFB and my youngest son which all of you know as
> Erik the younger was born at Desert Samaritan hospital in Mesa.  I hardly
> recognize the place now though since where I used to go dove and quail
> hunting north of the base is now a shopping mall and the base itself is
> closed and the housing we used to live in is now low-income housing from
> what I've been told.  And please don't get me started on snowbirds.
Visions
> of the near miss of a cactus while riding my motorcycle and trying to
avoid
> a license plate from Minnesota on a much too huge and slow car that had
> decided to turn right from the left hand lane just brings back way too
many
> bad thoughts :)
>
> Sean
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Cat <fem_cat at yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: loch-ruadh at ansteorra.org
> To: loch-ruadh at ansteorra.org
> Subject: [Loch-Ruadh] Estrella War and Arizona imports
> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 20:28:07 -0800 (PST)
>
> Hey Suzanne!!
> I moved from the valley about 10 years ago so I know
> exactly how ya feel. Its kinda nice having weather
> that holds moisture and isnt brown. Not to mention the
> warnings to pregnant women about NOT drinking the
> water in the valley.  LOL and I know I dont miss
> mowing the dirt in 100+ temps. Dont even get me
> started on snowbirds, I lived outside of Sun City
> (Where its perfectly legal to drive a golf cart on a
> main street while taking a nap). I think snowbirds
> should be considered poultry and thus open game during
> the winter season.  LOL.
>
> I still have family in Chandler and Glendale so I cant
> help but go back every now and then. All  I did go to
> Estrella War once, for one day and thought it was a
> lot of fun. Which is why I am hoping to return just
> for this event. *fingers crossed*
>
> So nice to know that I am not the only import. Like
> they say.. I may not have been born here but I got
> here as fast as I could.
>
>
> Cat
> aka Katheryn Margarete de Ryes
>
>
>
>
>
> Cat,
> Estrella War is in my old backyard!  We moved from
> Arizona last year.  I
> hear this is a great event.  I never went to it when I
> lived there as I am
> new to SCA.  There is also a Ren Faire in
> February/March in Far East
> Mesa/Gold Canyon.
>
> I  ran into Estrella Campers in the grocery store now
> once.  It used to be
> held West of Phoenix near the Estrella mountains.
> Last I heard it was held
> in Queen Creek which is south of Mesa/Gilbert.
>
> I won't be heading back.  I miss my friends, but I
> love Texas so much I just
> don't miss Arizona at all.  Well okay I miss the
> mountains, and I miss
> driving to the grand canyon in an afternoon.  But I
> don't miss the heat. Or
> the snowbirds in the winter.  Or the pollution in the
> valley.
>
> Suzanne
>
>
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