[Namron] Travel report from Meridies/Gleann Abhann

bobby harlow ironstorm34 at hotmail.com
Mon Aug 30 23:46:55 PDT 2004 

Having lived in several kingdoms over the years,i can say first hand that 
ansteorran fighters have always been call rhinoes for as long as i can 
remember in just about every other kingdom i lived in.we DO have a bad 
reputation out-of-kingdom....and here goes another can o' worms,,,,when  i 
was living in calontir i heard about a very bad rhino named inman.we think 
he is a god,,they think he is an excessive rhino by all accounts i have 
heard.having never fought the man,i can't say,,but i know for a fact they 
think we are a bunch of knuckeldraggin knuckledraggers(being the lowest form 
of fighter in the known world).
   I generally call a little light.and as such have had knights blow me off 
the field when i have fought in other kingdoms BECAUSE they thought all 
ansteorrans were rhinoes,,lol.but the simple fact is,,EVERY kingdom has 
rhinoes,regardless of calibration.once long ago i heard a knight describe 
what an ansteorran fighter should be lie in his opinion,"an ansteorran 
fighter should hit hard and call light".
   ah well nuff said on my part

>From: "G. Gibeson" <gurhal at hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: Barony of Namron <namron at ansteorra.org>
>To: namron at ansteorra.org
>Subject: Re: [Namron] Travel report from Meridies/Gleann Abhann
>Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 05:30:34 +0000
>
>Thats the Spirit!-- Maybe you can just bring the chair onto the field, I 
>have seen it done with great success.
>
>As for universial calibration, I guess they could have a lecture/ training 
>at big events like gulf wars and pennsic to iron out some of the 
>differances.
>
>Of course, how could you get people to agree on what the right standard is 
>since they all read the existing rules differently as it is.
>
>It would have to be something measureable in the ruleslike "a good blow is 
>defined as a force between 40 and 60 ft-lbs/ sq in"
>
>Or as some kingdoms and many martial arts have been doing, we could have 
>the marshal's call the blows for the fighters.  It works well in boxing, 
>Tae Kwon Do, Fencing (until they came up with that electronic scoring rig)
>
>Of course then some people would whine and say that is taking away the 
>honor of the fighters by holding them to an external standard.  There is 
>really not a good way to do it without stepping on egos eeerm I mean toes.
>
>
>
>"When you have come to the edge of all the light you know, And are about to 
>step off into the darkness of the unknown, Faith is knowing one of two 
>things will happen: There will be something solid to stand on, or you will 
>be taught how to fly." ~Unknown
>
>
>
>
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>From: "Chass Brown" <chass at allegiance.tv>
>Reply-To: Barony of Namron <namron at ansteorra.org>
>To: "Barony of Namron" <namron at ansteorra.org>
>Subject: Re: [Namron] Travel report from Meridies/Gleann Abhann
>Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 00:02:35 -0500
>
>Aye I got what ye said lol and understood it. Just flabbergasts me that 
>they think the whole area is that way.  Hmm mayhaps we all need come up 
>with a way of actually calibrating so its universal. Hmmmm.  I refuse to 
>let this wheel chair keep me off the heavy list lol when the DR says I am a 
>go I am heading back out.
>
>Chass of Rundel of Ansteorra aka
>Charinthalis Del Sans of the portable Chariot
>Honorable Recruiter of the House of the Red Shark (Have you seen my 
>Belaying Pin??)
>Muddeler of Mead, Ailment of Ale, Whiner of wine.
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "G. Gibeson" <gurhal at hotmail.com>
>To: <namron at ansteorra.org>
>Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 11:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [Namron] Travel report from Meridies/Gleann Abhann
>
>
>>No, I am saying all the Meridians I have encountered at fighter practice, 
>>think our whole kingdom is full of Rhinos.
>>
>>Here is why:
>>
>>Since standards for a good blow often vary kingdom to kingdom (even region 
>>to region).  Logically the closer the distance the closer the standards.
>>
>>For example, the practice in Namron should be pretty comparable to the 
>>Skarguard practice.  In my experience going to both these practices, the 
>>average fighter in the average fight will be calling blows in about the 
>>same spectrum of force.
>>
>>These fighters have trained and fought together in some cases for years 
>>even decades.  Therefore, it is no surprise they call blows about the 
>>same.
>>
>>When everyone is on the same standard, calling and throwing shots at about 
>>the same range of force.  Fights should be fair and, no single person 
>>would stand out as a rhino as long as they are calling and throwing in the 
>>same local range of force.
>>
>>When you go to a different kingdom the differences are more pronounced, 
>>and the fighters have their own local standards for blow calling.  These 
>>standards, just like ours, have been passed along and reinforced by the 
>>local fighters training and fighting together for years.
>>
>>
>>Now to define a Rhino-hider:
>>A person that will only call blows of a force harder than what would be 
>>normally acceptable, thus making themselves in effect harder to "kill" 
>>than the opponent who is calling at a lower degree of force.  Such a 
>>person is not playing fair, they are cheating, and will be labeled as a 
>>Rhino and treated accordingly.
>>
>>On the other end of the spectrum:
>>If a person calls blows with very little force behind them it is not 
>>really an issue because they are giving themselves a handicap by making 
>>themselves easier to "kill".
>>
>>Now if you consider the standard for calling a blow in Meridies which, as 
>>I have mentioned, is very light by Ansteorrian standards.
>>
>>What kind of reputation do you think the hard hitting, hard calling 
>>Ansteorrians have in other kingdoms in which the standard is toward 
>>lighter blow calling?
>>
>>You can guess how they treated me at my first practice here when I said I 
>>was from Ansteorra.  Lets just say opinions here are not very favorable 
>>toward Ansteorrian blow calling.
>>
>>Sorry for the confusion,
>>
>>Gavin
>>
>>
>>----Original Message Follows----
>>From: "Chass Brown" <chass at allegiance.tv>
>>Reply-To: Barony of Namron <namron at ansteorra.org>
>>To: "Barony of Namron" <namron at ansteorra.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Namron] Travel report from Meridies/Gleann Abhann
>>Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 13:21:56 -0500
>>
>>Egads is he saying we are rhinohiders?
>>
>>Chass of Rundel of Ansteorra aka
>>Charinthalis Del Sans of the portable Chariot
>>Honorable Recruiter of the House of the Red Shark (Have you seen my 
>>Belaying Pin??)
>>Muddeler of Mead, Ailment of Ale, Whiner of wine.
>>
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