[Namron] Guild of Camillus de Lellis

Annais de Montgomerie maleahladywait at yahoo.com
Mon Sep 26 21:06:21 PDT 2005

Why are we bringing up the ADA again? This has been
beaten to death already.  But since you brought it up
again, Camp Cimarron is a private entity in which  the
SCA, Inc.-Barony of Namron and other local area groups
lease property from in order to hold an event.  The
Camp Fire Girls and Boys Club, a private organization,
is responsible for maintaining compliance to the ADA
laws. As a private club, it is exempt from said

But because of the ADA issue, this matter has been
sent to SCA Corporate for review.  Since the SCA,
Inc., as an entity, employs less than 15 people, it
too is exempt from ADA regulations.  I'm sure we will
be hearing from Corporate on this matter in the

Moot point. Dead horse. Moving on.

I understand your situation.  You have a voice and you
use it.  So do others, when they need or want it.  It
should be up to them to use their voice for
themselves.  I, for one, do not like having shoved in
my face that I need to treat someone differently than
anyone else, unless they prefer said treatment. 

So, which do you prefer to be treated as... 

A Human?

Or an affliction?

Pick one, I will be happy to oblige.


Chas wrote:

Alas this may be true but.... those who go and get
sites for us to attend
think not of us who are disabled then we do not get to
attend... Example:
Camp Cimmeron.. this site is by no streach of the
immagination legal nor
close to complying to the A.D.A. laws of the land but
it is better than most
sites used here in oklahoma. At it I can at least get
into most buildings
with a little effort. I can mention a site that I had
to bring ramps to just
get into the cabin... nothing I have would have gotten
me into the feast
hall. Yes there is a need to remind people there are
those amongst us who
are unable to get around well. I get sick of reminding
people of the law....
I decided about a month ago to just let my attny
remind them of the law its
alot easier. I do as much as I can.. even went to
panther primitives and
bought a new tent that the friends who camp with us
can help set up so I
dont need to keep asking for a cabin, also so I can
camp closer to the
action (will still need a hookup to power to charge
the chair). I do want
those who go and pick sites to "Think about me" before
they say yes to a
site. A few questions they should think on "Will this
rip the underside out
form his wheelchair hydrolic van?", "Can his chair fit
in the bathrooms?",
"can his chair fit in the handicapped stall or is
there one?", "Can his
powered wheelchair get around the site or will he be
stuck where he is going
to camp?", "Can he get power in case no cabins are
avilable to charge his
chair?". See these are a few of the things that I
wished people thought of.
We dont ask for alot just some thought when a site is
picked (and cimmeron
isnt a bad site its just rough on the powerchair and
the bathrooms are hard
to access and the entry way road dented my hydrolic
tank under the van). Not
a rant just defending a lady with a grand cause and
working on doing the
right thing.  Now having said that, I dont like to nor
want to ask people
for help when I should be able to take care of myself.
Getting stuck in my
powerchair while trying to navigate a site is not only
emberassing but down
right dangerous, allow me to explain.. its time for me
to get my cath... I
am full to the point of pain.... cant get cathed in
time and get bleed back
into my kidneys due to the wife having to run and get
help for me getting
stuck. Now you may ask.. why is he full to the point
of pain... thats the
only way I know when I need to get relief is when my
bladder puts pressure
on something I can feel and like almost everyone I
forget off and on to
remind her when its time for a cathing. Our barony
does try to take care of
those of us who are limited in mobility... I know
there are more handicapped
accessable sites... Robers cave for one... and a few
more once upon a time
when people were saying they couldnt find sites I did
the research and gave
a list. Again this isnt a flameing.. this is simple
fact. Pookinator has
offered (threatened more like it lol) to push me
around sites when he see's
me, which I appreciate cause I know his heart is as
big as he is, but again
saying when I have a powerchair that can surmount a 4
inch curb and I cant
get around... So lets calm down and not flame one
another and agree more can
be done. I do want my friends to look at me and not my
chair. I do suggest
that those looking at sites try and take someone in a
powerchair or borrow
one and see if they can get around the site... Just a
suggestion though.

Chass the Arse aka Charinthalis Del Sans
Muddeler of Mead, Ailement of ale, Whiner of wine.
Honorable recruiter of the House of the Red Shark;
Have you seen me belaying

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