[Namron] Curmudgeonry oops

Craig Pharaoh sherdana at hotmail.com
Thu Sep 21 11:31:11 PDT 2006


ooops,  Baron Ulf Gunnarson
actually sent you the wrong message, working on a couple here, and should 
have put'your Excellency', rather than 'your Grace'.  Sorry, long night

your servant
Caius


>From: Ulf Gunnarsson <ulfie at cox.net>
>Reply-To: Barony of Namron Mailing List <namron at ansteorra.org>
>To: Barony of Namron Mailing List <namron at ansteorra.org>
>Subject: Re: [Namron] Curmudgeonry  (Ignore if you don't want another rant)
>Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:52:28 -0500
>
>Caius wrote:
> > It is not about private parties and private 'stitch and witches' or 
>such, it
> > is about the public, on a Namron or other SCA forum, promotion of a
> > violation of Corpora Policy, Federal Law and State Statue.
>
>I have been bothered by the strength of this statement, so I went
>looking for the relevant policies.  Maybe I've missed some changes
>recently, but here is what I've found.
>
>The Barony of Namron Mailing List has a description on the main list
>information page, a link to which appears at the bottom of each email.
>The first line says it "is a private forum for the members and friends
>of the Barony of Namron."
>
>In Corpora, I found nothing relevant.
>
>The Society Seneschal's Handbook dated Oct, 2005 says: "No messages
>posted to bulletin boards or general mailing lists may be considered
>official communications."
>
>On the kingdom website, the web minister has an online virtual scribe's
>handbook, last revised 2003, which states: "Internet and other
>Electronic Mailing lists are not considered official channels of
>communication within the Society."
>
>The Ansteorran Seneschal's Handbook of 2006 says: "Posts to electronic
>media, such as email lists, bulletin boards, and blogs, are not
>considered official communications. However, submitting reports by email
>is permitted if the superior officer has agreed to accept reports in
>that format."
>
>Now, most of this is meant to define communication to and from officers,
>and you can see they are lightening up a little on it.  But...  no
>policy I can find says the mailing list defines S.C.A. policy and
>inclusion or exclusion from a message is binding to the S.C.A. or
>representative of its officers.
>
>My own opinion is that mailing lists cannot *be* official communication,
>they can only *supplement* official communications.  Electronic mail is
>still in the "Pony Express" stage of development and there is no
>guarantee of delivery (unless you are trying to sell something no one in
>their right mind would buy.)  Mailing lists are quite useful for
>broadcast conversation and communication, much like making announcements
>during or after populace meeting by shouting into a room full of people
>or like trying to have a conversation with your friends in the middle of
>a concert.  One's words can be missed or mistaken.
>
>As this mailing list is for the S.C.A. people of Namron and their
>friends and neighbors (and any one else in the whole world), posts
>should be relevant to the S.C.A. around here, either as an organization
>or as a group of people in that organization.  Thus associated, people
>should try to be polite, chivalrous, and friendly.  I am glad to see it
>being used for something it is well suited for: building a community.
>Thank you, Lady Samarrah and so many other regular posters.
>
>Lord Caius, I applaud your efforts to safeguard this organization from
>crossing the oft overlooked line, leaving the SCA and the Barony of
>Namron at risk.  Enthusiasm will often cause people to forget to stay
>within the lines.  You are pretty good at warning people in a timely
>fashion without trying to run their lives.  I think you are mistaken in
>this specific situation.  If you have information I am missing, though,
>why don't we start the verbal tennis in private email first, and if you
>can prove me wrong we can move it back here so I can apologize and
>people can get the correction. Deal?
>
>
>Baron Ulf Gunnarsson
>
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