NR - Principality

[Phillip Stallcup]

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-northern at ansteorra.org
> [mailto:owner-northern at ansteorra.org]On Behalf Of Peachy Keen Barbara
> Jean
> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 9:23
> To: northern at ansteorra.org
> Subject: Re: NR - Principality
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>
> Umm... where to begin... I guess first of all, I too have a Yankee
> upbringing. I don't feel superior or inferior to anyone because of
> that but, I am often mistaken because my mannerisms/ideas are a
> little different. One of the things that this lends is a bit of
> confusion over this rivalry between OK and TX...? I've only lived in
> OK for a little over 3 years. I can only think that it is perhaps a
> little like the rivalry between PA and NJ. I grew up near Philly and
> so that is what I understand.... where am I going with this... well,
> I started participating in the SCA earlier this year. I am a "newbie"
> and well, I've been watching this yarn with some concern. I am not
> here to chastise anyone but, is the SCA not, for all intensive
> purposes a game? A way to relax and escape the horrors and stress and
> bigotry of the the real world? When I discovered this group my heart
> just leaped because I had finally found a place where others seemed
> to understand me. I feel less of the "Oh your a yank you think your
> better than us" attitude and more of the love of just being alive and
> being able to enjoy that. The SCA saved my sanity because I had just
> about given up on OK and wanted to return to what I knew and couldn't
> because of my circumstances. But, the SCA is made up of the people
> who share their dreams for a better place for child and adult alike.
> So, seeing this topic as heated as it seems to be... well it
> bewilders me a little. I can't say that I know the way Texans feel
> about Oklahomans or visa versa.... I know what rivalry can do to
> people when taken too far... And what's to say is too far? A
> Principality may just be what this region needs. A way for the
> Northern Ansteorrans to feel better recognized for their efforts. A
> way to allow the Southern Ansteorrans to feel that the North is still
> a strong part of Ansteorra. What better recognition could there be?
> The North wants to be noticed not forgotten and becoming a
> Principality will make people stand up and take notice. But... will
> it be the wrong kind of recognition? Will it flare up even more
> rivalry and division between the North and the South? Is this to be
> ignored? I'm not suggesting that the North become under anyones thumb
> (not suggesting that they are there, I'm only speculating and
> probably opening more discussion) but, from what I can see it looks
> that this is a delicate matter that needs delicate handling. And
> well, where does that leave me... still a little confused not because
> I don't understand rivalry but, because I am not sure where I stand.
> Perhaps if I was with the SCA for longer I might see what people are
> saying happen in action and become a little disturbed by it. I don't
> know. I guess I don't see it as Texas and Oklahoma when I am at an
> event but as Ansteorra the beautiful Kingdom with beautiful people
> who understand what chivalry and honor is and want to make that come
> to life.
>
> Ok... perhaps this was unnecessary and maybe I don't want to know the
> answers but maybe just heard. How selfish am I!
>
> Nadine des Jardins (Barbara in mundane)
>
>
> ---- Begin Original Message ----
>
> From: HEGitana at aol.com
> Sent: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 00:57:24 EDT
> To: northern at ansteorra.org
> Subject: NR - Principality
>
>
>
> Looks like this didn't go when I tried to send it earlier.  If it did
> please
> accept my apologies for the double post.
> ________________________________________________
> In a message dated 9/9/00 4:44:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
> marc-carlson at utulsa.edu writes:
>
> <<  I'm certainly not trying to
>  pick an argument  >>
>
> Thank you, nor am I. Neither do I take offense at any of your
> response, I
> fully understand where you are coming from.  If you know me, you know
> that I
> have had serious differences of opinions with some from Texas.  I'm a
> Southerner that was raised a Yankee and then came back to be a
> Southerner
> again.  I'm even told that is the reason why what I say is often
> misunderstood.  I don't have that slow southern manner of speaking.
>  (Wish I
> did, I love it)
>
> In any case, I was not speaking at all of those things that concern
> you, only
> my perception that the mundane OK/Texas rivalry might be seeping in.
>  I'm
> glad you don't think that is the case.  Guess I've just really never
> thought
> of myself as that different from those I play with in Texas, but I
> can
> respect that you and others do.
>
> Gitana
>
>
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