[NR] Northern name--ownership question

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Thu Sep 30 17:27:29 PDT 2010


Please, let me make myself clear on this point. I am specifically not trying to jump the gun and speed up any part of this. This is a slow process, as well it should be.

However, some of us are technically minded, and just curious about these things. I know others have asked this same question off the list for no other reason than just basic curiosity. 

I consider the question valid and relevant, hence why I asked it in such a broad forum. 

However, I now see that my intent might be easily misunderstood based on how I worded my questions. For that I apologise.

I still honestly am vary up in the air on many points of this conversation. 

However, I am loving it at the same time for all of the good interactions I am seeing. 

Ivo
-----Original Message-----
Date: Thursday, September 30, 2010 4:41:50 pm
To: "Northern Region of Ansteorra - SCA,	Inc." <northern at lists.ansteorra.org>
From: <barrett1 at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [NR] Northern name--ownership question

We are still in the midst of deciding if we (a sizable majority) want to have a distinct name. I think that will continue to be discussed for some time.

However, if we do, what about this?

A.) Have the people vote to determine the top five names.
B.) See how many of those names can be registered, and register them all as multiple titles for the Regional Herald.
C.) Vote on those registered names, and release the others when the final name is chosen by the people.

>From that point, the chosen name would be the registered title of our Regional herald.

Now that is just my idea, my suggestion, something to consider.

What, if anything, we chose to do with that registered heralds title in the future would be a different discussion. If we do wish to apply it further, it would be ours to use.
 
Would this not work for some reason? Would this not be allowed due to some rule of the College of Heralds?

I don't have enough knowledge of the system to know for certain.

~Finnacan


---- Kevinkeary <kevinkeary at aol.com> wrote: 
> Ah, then my initial position still stands. Were we the Northern Region of Ansteorra to select a regional name, our choices would be to use it without registration or to petition the Crown to register it under whatever definition They saw fit, and allocate it for our use as an identifying label. A petition that They, of course, being the Crown, might honor, ignore or denounce as They will.
> 
> 
> Kevin
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jennifer Smith <jds at randomgang.com>
> To: Northern Region of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc. <northern at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:12 pm
> Subject: Re: [NR] Northern name--ownership question
> 
> 
> Yes; prior to about 1985 or so, name registrations were VERY
> and-waved, and sometimes not even noted as separate events on a LoAR
> hen registered at the same time as a device.  In fact, the last
> ention of "region of" that I could find was a return in July 1991:
> Avacal, Region of. Device. Quarterly argent and Or, a griffin segreant
> aintaining a sword and arrow gules, the sword environed of a laurel
> reath vert.
> he name is registered as a herald's title to the kingdom of An Tir.
> o paperwork was received for a designator change. While in the past
> rms have been registered to the regions of Ansteorra and Calontir, a
> umber of commentors questioned whether this is a precedent we should
> till follow. In a discussion with the Chairman of the Board of
> irectors, she recommended against the registration of the names and
> rmory of regions. Might we suggest that the region send in the
> aperwork for a change in status to that of principality?
> And that, I suppose, is that.
> -Emma
> 
> n Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Kevinkeary <kevinkeary at aol.com> wrote:
>  Have the rules changed, then, since the names Calontir and Oertha were first 
> egistered? Both were registered to their kingdoms, of course, but both were 
> egistered as REGION names to start with.
> 
> 
>  Kevin, being a pesky stude




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