[NR] Proposed Northern Regional Names

tkwasny tkwasny at cox.net
Tue Feb 8 08:17:34 PST 2011

 To me the best reason for the region to have a name other than "The North"
is that was not what was done in period.  For example the northern regions
of France were Bretagne, and Normandie, the southern regions were Languedoc,
Provence, ect.  And the fluidity of Kingdome borders is one of the things
that let to a strong identity with one's region.  Bretagne and Normandie
were both part of England at one time, but the people still identified
themselves as a Breton or Norman.   So I think we should have an identifier
other than the rather mundane sounding "The Northern Regions of Ansteorra"
for no other reason than we are a organization which is about recreating
history.  It is a hope of allot of us that the other regions will also take
up the idea and come up with period sounding names for their areas also.
As for the 800 pound gorilla who's name starts with a capital P, I agree we
should stop pretending it isn't there.  Yes the end game for some people is
a principality, but if and when that happens it is still several years away.
There will be plenty of time to talk about it, and that shouldn't affect the
other reasons to have a period sounding name and heraldry for ourselves.

And for the record I like the name Eisenfeld, which is German for the Iron
Fields. A play on Ian's Red Land ideas.

Don Timothy LeCorbuiser

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Kerry Pratt
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To: 'Northern Region of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc.'
Subject: Re: [NR] Proposed Northern Regional Names

Not to be contrary to what seems to be a popular idea, but...  What is the
proposed endgame behind coming up with a region name for the north?  Right
now, the Kingdom is broken down into four regions which continue to morph as
groups move from one administrative region to the next.  I'm guessing it's
for load balancing among the regional officers.  These regions are
administrative divisions of the Kingdom not philosophical ones.  While I
would be one of the first to agree that there are differences between the
north and south, I doubt that you wouldn't also find differences between,
say, baronies as close together as Namron and Weisenfeuer.  We don't need a
name to be proud of what we are.  We accomplish that already in great ways.
While a name may provide a rallying point for some of the folks in the north
it may form a wedge within the Kingdom.  Is that really something that we
want?  Is there some deeper push behind naming the north?  Some 800 pound
gorilla in the room that everyone wants to pretend isn't there?  The north
already has an identity, it doesn't seem to me like it needs a new name.
Unless a large number of folks really want to talk about that gorilla and
the large number of hurt feelings that WILL accompany it on both sides of
the argument why do need to find a name?  

And lest you think I'm not reading the posts, even the northernmost portion
of Ansteorra is in the south of the U.S.  Please, if you continue on, don't
saddle us with any form that has north, especially nord, in it.  I can just
hear the 'nerd' pronunciation that southern Texas drawl would immediately
make.  Think 'nerdville' and 'nerdsteorra'... I'm just sayin'...

William Cameron deBlakstan

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