[NR] percentages from NORTHERN REGIONAL NAMING SURVEY...mathgeeking

Cameron Lewis okrabbit at cox.net
Tue Jun 7 20:24:13 PDT 2011


I love geeks, they are near and dear to my heart.  I don’t have a problem 
adding more names to the list for folks to look over.  Do you think that a 5 
point scale of really like, like, neutral, dislike and really dislike, would 
be enough for the next round to get rid of more names then?

I think that we should put it in the Blackstar as well (thanks Rose).

A shorter list of names and a date to have a polling in the region (or do it 
at local pop meetings) for the month after it is in the Blackstar, should be 
sufficient time for folks to mail in an absentee ballot if they wont be at 
the meetings.  We could take snail mail and they would have a month to get 
that in to either me or other local landed before the determined polling.

After that take the top names and give them to the local heralds and see if 
they think they should be a valid choice.

Otherwise we give this list to the heralds now and let them see what they 
come up with for this next month and take their culled list to a polling. 
That means that local heralds will have to volunteer NOW to do some research 
THIS MONTH on a longer list.

THIS IS ONLY MY FIRST ROUND OPINION AND BRAINSTORM

What else could we try to be more efficient and reach as many of the 
populace that we can?

Cassius
Baron of Wiesenfeuer



Greetings,

First, my sincere thanks to Cassius for all the data...my inner math geek is 
beyond pleased.

WARNING:  About to geek on math...but you can jump to the bottom of the page 
(just past the row of stars ****) for the top 15 (my cut).

***************************START GEEKING**********************************

Since EVERY name had a "Dislike" of 30% or greater (and only 2 names had a 
"Like" greater than 30%), I expect that most people voted "Like" for what 
they wanted, and "Dislike" for most everything else. So, I'm not going to 
chop any of them off until the end...all the names go in the hopper. I think 
its better to let the math work.

If you treat the votes as: Yes (+1), No (-1), and Don't Care (0), then you 
can score and rank the list...Ignore Neutral.

If you treat the votes as: Yes (+2), No (-2), and Can Live With (1), then 
you can score and rank a second list...Positive Neutral.

If you assume that Can Live With (+2) is more important than Yes (1) or No 
(-1), then you can score and rank a third list...Least Contentious. This 
weighting assumes that "Neutral" equals "Can Live With".

Of course, there is always the "Most Liked" list and the "Least Disliked" 
list...but a name with a lot of "Likes" AND a lot of "Dislikes" means a lot 
of disputes.

That's five lists...all different but remarkably similar as it turns out. In 
fact, the top 15 (28% of the overall list) are the same collection across 
all five lists with two exceptions: a) Ebenen is #17 in "Most Liked" but top 
4 for everything else and b) Moralor is #16 in "Least Disliked" and #21 in 
"Least Contentious". Overall, the result is rather good from a statistical 
standpoint.

So, for your consideration (and possibly amusement), I give you the 
composite rack and stack (sorted by average placement in all 5 lists):
                                                   Most    Least
Name          Avg   (2/1/-2)  (1/0/-1)  (1/2/-1)  Liked  Disliked
Hrithmarc      1       1         1         7        1        2
Hastmark       2       3         2         3        2        3
Cyrmoden       3       4         3         2        5        4
Ebenen         4       2         4         1       17        1
Midgrens       5       5         5         4       12        5
Quivara        6       7         6         8        9        7
Styringeard    7       6         7         5       14        6
Norchester     8       9         8        11        4        9
Biornrice      9       8         9         6       13        8
Northunor     10      10        10        12       10       10
Reodweald     11      13        11        14        7       13
Morland       12      11        14         9       15       11
Axia          13      12        13        13       11       12
Glomeval      14      14        12        15        8       14
Moralor       15      15        15        21        6       16

Again, I made assumptions when I developed these weighting schemes. 
Hopefully, I didn't unduly bias the outcome...but that's why I took the 
average of 5 different ones.  8^)

***************************END GEEKING*************************************

For everyone that either skipped the geek-out (or suffered through the 
explanation), here is an alphabetical list of the top 15, which I recommend 
for a more formal polling process:
Axia, Biornrice, Cyrmoden, Ebenen, Glomeval, Hastmark, Hrithmarc, Moralor, 
Morland, Midgrens, Norchester, Northunor, Quivara, Reodwald, Styringeard.

On a philosophical note, 139 participants is a good cross-section for a 
winnowing (54 to 15 is dropping 70%); however, it does not seem to me to be 
sufficient for a final grouping (i.e., less than 10%). I believe the next 
reduction...and final selection...should both be done by polling.

We can afford some time to involve more people in the selection...this time, 
in person and by mail. Electronic media is a tool, not a substitute, for 
personal communication and interaction.

Also, I would like to see Finnacan recite the somewhat shorter list of names 
at some date in the future. Only two of the top three (Hrithmarc and 
Cyrmoden) have been performed to date...and hearing these names means so 
much more than letters on a page.

Regards,
Tadhg
...brick by brick



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