[NR] percentages from NORTHERN REGIONAL NAMING SURVEY...mathgeeking
Marc Carlson
marccarlson20 at hotmail.com
Wed Jun 8 05:25:47 PDT 2011
Speaking only for myself, this sounds remarkably like a plan.
M/d
> From: okrabbit at cox.net
> To: northern at lists.ansteorra.org
> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 22:24:13 -0500
> Subject: Re: [NR] percentages from NORTHERN REGIONAL NAMING SURVEY...mathgeeking
>
> I love geeks, they are near and dear to my heart. I don’t have a problem
> adding more names to the list for folks to look over. Do you think that a 5
> point scale of really like, like, neutral, dislike and really dislike, would
> be enough for the next round to get rid of more names then?
>
> I think that we should put it in the Blackstar as well (thanks Rose).
>
> A shorter list of names and a date to have a polling in the region (or do it
> at local pop meetings) for the month after it is in the Blackstar, should be
> sufficient time for folks to mail in an absentee ballot if they wont be at
> the meetings. We could take snail mail and they would have a month to get
> that in to either me or other local landed before the determined polling.
>
> After that take the top names and give them to the local heralds and see if
> they think they should be a valid choice.
>
> Otherwise we give this list to the heralds now and let them see what they
> come up with for this next month and take their culled list to a polling.
> That means that local heralds will have to volunteer NOW to do some research
> THIS MONTH on a longer list.
>
> THIS IS ONLY MY FIRST ROUND OPINION AND BRAINSTORM
>
> What else could we try to be more efficient and reach as many of the
> populace that we can?
>
> Cassius
> Baron of Wiesenfeuer
>
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> First, my sincere thanks to Cassius for all the data...my inner math geek is
> beyond pleased.
>
> WARNING: About to geek on math...but you can jump to the bottom of the page
> (just past the row of stars ****) for the top 15 (my cut).
>
> ***************************START GEEKING**********************************
>
> Since EVERY name had a "Dislike" of 30% or greater (and only 2 names had a
> "Like" greater than 30%), I expect that most people voted "Like" for what
> they wanted, and "Dislike" for most everything else. So, I'm not going to
> chop any of them off until the end...all the names go in the hopper. I think
> its better to let the math work.
>
> If you treat the votes as: Yes (+1), No (-1), and Don't Care (0), then you
> can score and rank the list...Ignore Neutral.
>
> If you treat the votes as: Yes (+2), No (-2), and Can Live With (1), then
> you can score and rank a second list...Positive Neutral.
>
> If you assume that Can Live With (+2) is more important than Yes (1) or No
> (-1), then you can score and rank a third list...Least Contentious. This
> weighting assumes that "Neutral" equals "Can Live With".
>
> Of course, there is always the "Most Liked" list and the "Least Disliked"
> list...but a name with a lot of "Likes" AND a lot of "Dislikes" means a lot
> of disputes.
>
> That's five lists...all different but remarkably similar as it turns out. In
> fact, the top 15 (28% of the overall list) are the same collection across
> all five lists with two exceptions: a) Ebenen is #17 in "Most Liked" but top
> 4 for everything else and b) Moralor is #16 in "Least Disliked" and #21 in
> "Least Contentious". Overall, the result is rather good from a statistical
> standpoint.
>
> So, for your consideration (and possibly amusement), I give you the
> composite rack and stack (sorted by average placement in all 5 lists):
> Most Least
> Name Avg (2/1/-2) (1/0/-1) (1/2/-1) Liked Disliked
> Hrithmarc 1 1 1 7 1 2
> Hastmark 2 3 2 3 2 3
> Cyrmoden 3 4 3 2 5 4
> Ebenen 4 2 4 1 17 1
> Midgrens 5 5 5 4 12 5
> Quivara 6 7 6 8 9 7
> Styringeard 7 6 7 5 14 6
> Norchester 8 9 8 11 4 9
> Biornrice 9 8 9 6 13 8
> Northunor 10 10 10 12 10 10
> Reodweald 11 13 11 14 7 13
> Morland 12 11 14 9 15 11
> Axia 13 12 13 13 11 12
> Glomeval 14 14 12 15 8 14
> Moralor 15 15 15 21 6 16
>
> Again, I made assumptions when I developed these weighting schemes.
> Hopefully, I didn't unduly bias the outcome...but that's why I took the
> average of 5 different ones. 8^)
>
> ***************************END GEEKING*************************************
>
> For everyone that either skipped the geek-out (or suffered through the
> explanation), here is an alphabetical list of the top 15, which I recommend
> for a more formal polling process:
> Axia, Biornrice, Cyrmoden, Ebenen, Glomeval, Hastmark, Hrithmarc, Moralor,
> Morland, Midgrens, Norchester, Northunor, Quivara, Reodwald, Styringeard.
>
> On a philosophical note, 139 participants is a good cross-section for a
> winnowing (54 to 15 is dropping 70%); however, it does not seem to me to be
> sufficient for a final grouping (i.e., less than 10%). I believe the next
> reduction...and final selection...should both be done by polling.
>
> We can afford some time to involve more people in the selection...this time,
> in person and by mail. Electronic media is a tool, not a substitute, for
> personal communication and interaction.
>
> Also, I would like to see Finnacan recite the somewhat shorter list of names
> at some date in the future. Only two of the top three (Hrithmarc and
> Cyrmoden) have been performed to date...and hearing these names means so
> much more than letters on a page.
>
> Regards,
> Tadhg
> ...brick by brick
>
>
>
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