[Long] Re: [Northkeep] heavy weapons questions

Chris Birdwell angusmgunn at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 10 15:18:49 PST 2003

I apologize for the lateness of my reply. All three of the respondents have spoken well and truly. Grappling is not allowed, grabbing the haft of a weapon such as a glaive, while allowed in not the safest course of action to be followed and can be extremely dangerous to your hands. If you have further questions please feel free to email me directly and I will get back to you as soon as I can. These other gentleman are also a great and accurate source of information.
Lord Angus M. Gunn
Squire to Sir Alrek Kanin
Knight Marshall Northkeep

Dennis England <sirbalvin at cox.net> wrote:
Greetings Ottokar,
Your questions show you are thinking and examining the fight. That's good
and important. Both of these men are excellent fighters of note and are
offering you good solid advice. Just as they will offer you a good solid
first-hand lesson if you give them a chance! My thoughts are simple, you
just need to get some practice with people who challenge you. That is the
only way to really grow and improve. It can also present an opportunity for
you to try things and see what others do. Hope to see you over here soon!

In Service,
Sir Balvin

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hugh & Belinda Niewoehner" 
To: "The Barony of Northkeep" 
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 10:44 AM
Subject: [Long] Re: [Northkeep] heavy weapons questions

> Alton made some good comments. I'd like to add some.
> > 1: assuming that i have a free hand such as with single sword can i grab
> > the shaft of a weapon such as a glaive or spear or the haft of a mace or
> > the hilt and recasso (SP ?) of a great sword in the complete
> > participant hand book it states you may not
> Note:
> >grapple with an opponents blade or weapons head
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Unless they've changed it (again). As long as your hand does not grasp
> an edge or striking surface this is allowed. Most commonly seen when
> belly to belly with someone else using glaives. But it's easy to make
> yourself an easy kill by doing it. If you grab between you're opponents
> hands you've just created a pivot around which he can rotate and hit you.
> >
> > 2: again assuming i have a free hand /arm can i use my arm to block a
> > blow by bringing my forearm into contact with my opponents arm as he
> > swings his weapon
> Bad, very bad. This is the prime situation Alton was talking about.
> You're natural instinct is to open your hand wide and try to catch to
> opponents arm. High speed rattan (or even an arm) will fold your thumb
> all the way back to your your wrist bones. You can imagine the results.
> I've had it happen. Examine my hands sometime. One thumb joint is
> noticably larger than the other due to perminant damage to the joint.
> > 3: can a free hand be used to move an opponents shield out of the way
> > such as placing my arm/hand on the top edge of a shied and pushing down
> > and if this is posable may a person grab the shied edge and control the
> > shield that way
> Same as above.
> > 4 i understand that we are not allowed to punch or grapple an opponent
> > but how about pushing or shoving or redirecting an opponent
> Now this one is a different story. Nearly everybody does it. You'll
> hear folks talk about "Belly bucking", etc. My 6' glaive is stiff
> enough I can (and have) throw people if I get a good solid stance. In
> bridge battles many are killed not by weapons but by being pushed off
> the edge. (I'm hoping we can practice some of these at some of the
> upcoming sat. practices.
> There is a traditional Norse tourney fought within a 6' diameter circle.
> Think of it as heavy weapons sumo wrestling. You can kill your
> opponent or move him out of the circle. Either way is a win. You just
> cannot grab your opponent directly.
> I'm sure our KM will correct me if I've led you astray of the most
> recent rules variations.
> Damon
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