[Northkeep] Fw: [SCA-MissileCombat] New Society Marshallate Ruling
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Sun Aug 10 06:39:44 PDT 2008
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From: Siegfried <SiegfriedFaust at gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 7:26:23 AM
Subject: [SCA-MissileCombat] New Society Marshallate Ruling
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Effective immediately by the Society Earl Marshal & the Deputy Society Earl Marshal for Combat Archery, the following changes to equipment are required due to repeated incidents of helm penetrations:
* Combat Archery ammunition may have at most 1" thick padding on the tip after taping.
* All UHMW & Siloflex/Rubber Stopper ammunition must have a side wrap of foam added that brings the total diameter of the blunt to at least 1.5" after taping. This wrap must extend from the tip to at least 1/2" over the UHMW or Siloflex itself.
* All fletches on any arrows, bolts, or thrown weapons can project no further than 1/2" from the shaft, or must be 1.5" thick.
* NOTE: All Marshals need to be rigorous in their inspections of all tips (arrows & thrusting) and mass weapons. Ensure that the foam is firm, will not bend over, returns to shape when compressed, and can not be easily pushed into a legal helm more than 1/2".
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For those that do not know, there were a couple of incidents of the foam/tape of UHMW combat arrows touching the face/eyes of people at Gulf Wars this year. There were more incidents at a West/AnTir war, and at another event recently. Much discussion has therefore been going on at Society Level about this potential issue ever since Gulf Wars.
At Pennsic in the Town Battle on Wednesday, there were 4 incidents of foam/tape penetrating helms that were reported. Yes, 4 in one battle. Two of them resulted in minor injury. One was a busted blood vessel in an eye, the other resulted in a bruise (black eye). All of these penetrations happened to be UHMW/RubberStopper style ammo. In one case, the rubber stopper itself had penetrated a bit.
In all of these cases, the UHMW or Siloflex respectively did it's job and didn't let any hard parts of the arrow enter the helm. But obviously the force involved with just the foam/tape, from max poundage bows at close range, is significant enough to be concerned about.
At Pennsic, when this happened, CA was cancelled for the next battle (Mountain Pass) that was scheduled for that day. Especially because that battle had been scheduled to be face plate only so it didn't seem to be a good idea at the moment.
The MiC Pennsic made a ruling that for Siloflex/Rubber ammo to be allowed for the rest of pennsic that they would need to add a side wrap. The Local Wal-Mart was bought out of Camp Mats, and much taping happened that night so that archers could shoot the next day.
Later in the war, meetings were held since many Kingdom Earl Marshals were in attendance, as well as myself and the Society Earl Marshal. These issues were discussed, as well as the fact that Low Profile Thrusting tips & Mass Weapons depending on their construction can be forced into a helm. Also it was brought up that there was an incident of a polearm entering a helm in the Woods Battle and contacting someone's cheek.
After much discussion, the rulings above were developed. Basically, we already have a rule that weapons should not be able to enter a helm more than 1/2", and that people need to be constructing their weapons such that this doesn't happen, and the marshals ensuring that weapons are done this way.
Additionally the other rules were added to ammunition. This is because ammo travels with such velocity that we need to be extra vilgiant to ensure that we do not cause any injury. The rules as designed were done specifically so that they are easy RETROFITS.
Noone should need to remake any ammunition from scratch. Instead just add a side wrap of foam overtop of existing ammo, and tape it down good. To meet the letter of the law, a 1/8" wrap of foam will not be sufficient, since after taping down, it will compress and be less than 1.5" in diameter. Therefore two layers of 1/8" foam, or a layer of 1/4" foam would need to be added and taped down well.
Note that this side wrap IS required, you cannot just use bigger diameter UHMW or Siloflex. The reason is that by adding the sidewrap, you are making the foam on the tip much stiffer, protecting the edges of the UHMW, etc.
If archers have more than 1" of foam on the tip, it needs to be taped down tighter, or a little bit cut off.
Also in general archers need to think about their arrow tips as thrusting tips and building them 'solid' like you would a sword tip. Using high quality dense foam, and/or using oversized foam and compressing it as you tape it down so that it ends up a very firm tip that doesn't compress much, especially circumferentially.
Siegfried - Society Combat Archery Marshal
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Siegfried Sebastian Faust - http://crossbows. biz/
Barony of Highland Foorde - Kingdom of Atlantia
Society Combat Archery Marshal
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