[Northkeep] Heraldry Stuff

kevinkeary at aol.com kevinkeary at aol.com
Wed Oct 29 14:57:03 PDT 2008


Do you have a copy of the receipt? You will need it, or to get a copy 
or other verification from the reeve.

Household devices are not registered, but you can register a household 
name and BADGE either individually or jointly. There is only one device 
in the SCA registered to a group that is not a branch, and it occurred 
long ago for a group of special (SCA) historical significance, and is 
unlikely to be repeated. All others are to branches or to individuals.

I have found one (1) copy of a household emblem on a device form. There 
is a problem with it, besides the one stated above. The chief is too 
small and they might pass it on 'advising' you to draw it wider, or 
they might return it for a redraw, it could go either way. But it needs 
to be on a badge form anyway. I will need to talk to a more 
knowledgeable herald, but I think the 'Society Name' line should be 
yours and/or Wynfrith's, not the name of the household. I might be 
wrong there. I find some registered armory that I am afraid might 
conflict, but if so it wasn't caused by the delay, they are several 
years old. I will run this by the herald's list once I know you still 
want this design and will execute it on a badge form.

With it is one (1) copy of a household name registration form for the 
same household. The accompanying documentation is an excessive list of 
dictionary definitions of the two words in the name as they are used in 
modern English, but no documentation on either being used in period in 
their modern forms, or showing this was a valid construction pattern 
for household/guild/inn/etc names in period. I don't think there is a 
problem with the name at all, but I also don't think the 
'documentation' documents that fact. Neither word appears in any names 
currently registered by the Society, so conflict is unlikely to be an 
issue. Wynfrith's name is on this form (and the other one) as the 
submittor, yours is not.

I have not located any other forms, for a badge to be held by the two 
of you jointly (or one for each of you if that's what you meant) or for 
a name change for yourself. I will keep looking.

I haven't seen anything that says these were ever sent to kingdom. You 
are talking about either four or five separate registrations, depending 
on whether you meant a badge for each of you and Wynfrith or one for 
you jointly. I will talk to my predecessor about them the next chance I 
get.

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: Lady Catin <lady_catin at yahoo.com>
To: northkeep at ansteorra.org
Sent: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 8:11 am
Subject: [Northkeep] Heraldry Stuff



Kevin -
 
I submitted my name change, a Household name and device, and a badge 
for myself
and Wynfrith.  It was paid for almost 2 years ago.  Is there any way to 
track
this, since I submitted all the paperwork I had, and have managed to 
lose the
originals.
 
Thank you, and sorry for the public post...just got to looking, and 
didn't find
anything.
 
Kale, who is apparently still Catin in the eyes of the heralds...

In ancient times, cats were worshipped as gods. They have never 
forgotten this.
- Terry Pratchett



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