[Northkeep] Regional Names

Montega montega at gmail.com
Fri Jul 1 11:51:05 PDT 2011 

Wow, and to think the pronunciation of "Tomato" has no attention.....

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Kevinkeary <kevinkeary at aol.com> wrote:

> Having been there, to the home baronies, not the war, I've heard the people
> who work the war every year pronounce it all three ways. No single person;
> each local seems to pick the pronunciation they like best and stick to it.
>
>
>
> I assume they are all correct. They should know.
>
> Kevin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: a a <princeisabitteroldman at yahoo.com>
> To: The Barony of Northkeep <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:29 pm
> Subject: Re: [Northkeep] Regional Names
>
>
> Actually,I think you're wrong,Tadgh.Estrella is sometimes pronounced
>  something
> ike e-strel-yah,I believe.I think this is the way Castilian Spanish does
> it.I
> ight be wrong;this what I remember from what my parents told me and what I
> poke when I was a child.I lived in Spain when I was small.Point here is
> that
> here are REGIONAL differences in pronunciation.I lived in Zaragoza.
>                                          Edward
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> rom: Tadhg <ld_tadhg at yahoo.com>
> o: The Barony of Northkeep <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
> ent: Thu, June 30, 2011 1:26:21 PM
> ubject: Re: [Northkeep] Regional Names
> Greetings,
> Estrella is both. E-stray-ah, in Spanish; E-strell-a in English/'merican.
> Okay, "wang" is pronounced "vvong" but the goober test is for the goobers
> not
> he name...so, yeah, I get your point, Angus.
> As for a name that bards will write to inspire the people, Adalia, you
> could
> rite an inspiring war song if the name had 7 syllables and half the letters
> ere "L".
> Regards,
> adhg
> ..brick by brick
>
> -- On Thu, 6/30/11, Adalia <adalia.nyx at gmail.com> wrote:
> > From: Adalia <adalia.nyx at gmail.com>
>  Subject: Re: [Northkeep] Regional Names
>  To: "The Barony of Northkeep" <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
>  Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011, 10:06 AM
>  While I agree with Angus' factors, I
>  would add a couple more.
>
>  1.  Is it yell-able?  Can it be used as war-cry
>  (This also includes no names
>  with "wang" in them for the goober rule as well).
>
>  2.  Can the bards use it to write battle songs and
>  songs that inspire the
>  people?  (I know this one will matter more to some
>  than it does to others,
>  but I'm one of those it matters to, so I'm adding to my
>  list...your mileage
>  may vary)
>
>
>
>  On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Angus MacKnochard <glnn_jhn at yahoo.com
> >wrote:
>
>  > For me,
>  > the meaning of the name is way less important than
>  many other factors.
>  >
>  > how many kingdoms, or groups can you name, of those
>  how many of those names
>  > have
>  > meaning?
>  >
>  > 1. is it pro-nounc-able
>  >
>  > simple example............
>  >
>  > is it ESTRAY-A or ESTRELL-A
>  >
>  > 2. it must pass a GOOBER test
>  >     does it just look stupid
>  >
>  > 3. Can you spell it, Can you type it?
>  >     no odd symbols, punctuation,
>  dashes dots or non "standard amercan
>  > keyboard"
>  > characters.
>  >
>  > 4. nothing with the word Wang in it......see rule 2
>  >
>  > 5.  I Do like the idea of something based on the
>  various Rune stones found
>  > around our region. now that has period ties
>  >
>  >
>  > Just my thoughtsAngus MacKnochard Bagadur
>  > ANDA GDH
>  > KSCA
>  > CSS LXVIII,
>  >
>  >
>  > snerta er vald
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > ________________________________
>  > From: Jerry Herring <j.t.herring at sbcglobal.net>
>  > To: Northkeep <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
>  > Sent: Tue, June 28, 2011 2:09:12 PM
>  > Subject: [Northkeep] Regional Names
>  >
>  > Greetings All
>  > When it comes to the subject of a Northern Regional
>  name and the meaning
>  > that a
>  > name will hold for us I would like you to consider
>  Hríthmarc. This name
>  > could
>  > have several meanings to different people: in Old
>  English Hríth means
>  > tempest
>  > and what better term to describe northern Texas and
>  Oklahoma.. A land
>  > plagued by
>  >
>  > violent windstorms, especially ones with rain, hail,
>  or snow would be well
>  > described if it were had tempest in some part of its
>  name. In thinking of
>  > the
>  > people some of who are prone to making a lot of noise,
>  creating a
>  > commotion, or
>  > our warriors who love a good violent disturbance, or
>  simply a tumultuous
>  > place.
>  > In Old English, Norse, and Frankish (however the
>  heralds end up spelling
>  > it) a
>  > marc, mearc, mark, march, marche is a division of
>  land. Markland was the
>  > name
>  > given to North America when the Norse first discovered
>  it. Charlemagne
>  > divided
>  > his lands up into marks as a way to better govern it
>  all. To offer some
>  > validity
>  >
>  > to the name Hríthmarc there are multiple places in
>  countries in various
>  > times in
>  >
>  > period that have marc, mark, marche, or marck in their
>  name...these include
>  > many
>  >
>  > in Scandinavian and Germanic locations but also in
>  Spain, France, and
>  > Italy.
>  > Feel free to look these locations up:
>  >
>  > Denmark
>  > Danemarc
>  > Finnmark
>  > Hedmark
>  > Telemark
>  > Hennemarck
>  >
>  > Altmark
>  > Mittelmark
>  > Neumark
>  > Uckermark
>  > Ostmark
>  >
>  > Steiermark
>  >
>  > Marcha Hispanica
>  >
>  > Marche Limousine
>  > Haute-Marche
>  > Basse-Marche
>  > La Marche
>  >
>  > And now for something a little different...
>  > In Latin marca is a unit of currency a way of gaining
>  wealth and influence
>  > traits that the governance of the northern region is
>  known for, as we host
>  > some
>  > of the wealthiest and most populated groups in the
>  Kingdom.
>  > In Gaelic Scotts and Old Irish the word marc means
>  horse. The lands of
>  > Northern
>  > Oklahoma and Texas as well known for the importance of
>  the horse in its
>  > history
>  > and even today.
>  > In Old English the word mearc or marc is a boundry or
>  territorial
>  > deliniation
>  > for a region or principality.
>  > In modern English marc is a word for the matter left
>  after fruit,
>  > particularly
>  > grapes, have been pressed. The people of the Northern
>  Region are known for
>  > their
>  >
>  > love of brewing.
>  > A mark is also a symbol to delineate ownership as in
>  marking your
>  > territory...or...a symbol of quality as in a good
>  mark...or...an omen of
>  > things
>  > to come.
>  >
>  > So as you think on this subject of names please think
>  about Hríthmarc and
>  > what
>  > it could mean to you.
>  >
>  > Most Kindly
>  > Ian
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>  --
>  HL Adalia VonderBerg
>
>  There are two ways to be creative.  One can sing and
>  dance.  OR one can
>  create an environment where singers and dancers flourish -
>  Warren Bennis
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