[Northkeep] Regional Names

Kevinkeary kevinkeary at aol.com
Fri Jul 1 11:13:21 PDT 2011 

Having been there, to the home baronies, not the war, I've heard the people who work the war every year pronounce it all three ways. No single person; each local seems to pick the pronunciation they like best and stick to it.



I assume they are all correct. They should know.

Kevin
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From: a a <princeisabitteroldman at yahoo.com>
To: The Barony of Northkeep <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Thu, Jun 30, 2011 8:29 pm
Subject: Re: [Northkeep] Regional Names


Actually,I think you're wrong,Tadgh.Estrella is sometimes pronounced  something 
ike e-strel-yah,I believe.I think this is the way Castilian Spanish does it.I 
ight be wrong;this what I remember from what my parents told me and what I 
poke when I was a child.I lived in Spain when I was small.Point here is that 
here are REGIONAL differences in pronunciation.I lived in Zaragoza.
                                          Edward

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o: The Barony of Northkeep <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
ent: Thu, June 30, 2011 1:26:21 PM
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Greetings,
Estrella is both. E-stray-ah, in Spanish; E-strell-a in English/'merican.
Okay, "wang" is pronounced "vvong" but the goober test is for the goobers not 
he name...so, yeah, I get your point, Angus.
As for a name that bards will write to inspire the people, Adalia, you could 
rite an inspiring war song if the name had 7 syllables and half the letters 
ere "L".
Regards,
adhg
..brick by brick

-- On Thu, 6/30/11, Adalia <adalia.nyx at gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Adalia <adalia.nyx at gmail.com>
 Subject: Re: [Northkeep] Regional Names
 To: "The Barony of Northkeep" <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
 Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011, 10:06 AM
 While I agree with Angus' factors, I
 would add a couple more.
 
 1.  Is it yell-able?  Can it be used as war-cry
 (This also includes no names
 with "wang" in them for the goober rule as well).
 
 2.  Can the bards use it to write battle songs and
 songs that inspire the
 people?  (I know this one will matter more to some
 than it does to others,
 but I'm one of those it matters to, so I'm adding to my
 list...your mileage
 may vary)
 
 
 
 On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Angus MacKnochard <glnn_jhn at yahoo.com>wrote:
 
 > For me,
 > the meaning of the name is way less important than
 many other factors.
 >
 > how many kingdoms, or groups can you name, of those
 how many of those names
 > have
 > meaning?
 >
 > 1. is it pro-nounc-able
 >
 > simple example............
 >
 > is it ESTRAY-A or ESTRELL-A
 >
 > 2. it must pass a GOOBER test
 >     does it just look stupid
 >
 > 3. Can you spell it, Can you type it?
 >     no odd symbols, punctuation,
 dashes dots or non "standard amercan
 > keyboard"
 > characters.
 >
 > 4. nothing with the word Wang in it......see rule 2
 >
 > 5.  I Do like the idea of something based on the
 various Rune stones found
 > around our region. now that has period ties
 >
 >
 > Just my thoughtsAngus MacKnochard Bagadur
 > ANDA GDH
 > KSCA
 > CSS LXVIII,
 >
 >
 > snerta er vald
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > ________________________________
 > From: Jerry Herring <j.t.herring at sbcglobal.net>
 > To: Northkeep <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
 > Sent: Tue, June 28, 2011 2:09:12 PM
 > Subject: [Northkeep] Regional Names
 >
 > Greetings All
 > When it comes to the subject of a Northern Regional
 name and the meaning
 > that a
 > name will hold for us I would like you to consider
 Hríthmarc. This name
 > could
 > have several meanings to different people: in Old
 English Hríth means
 > tempest
 > and what better term to describe northern Texas and
 Oklahoma.. A land
 > plagued by
 >
 > violent windstorms, especially ones with rain, hail,
 or snow would be well
 > described if it were had tempest in some part of its
 name. In thinking of
 > the
 > people some of who are prone to making a lot of noise,
 creating a
 > commotion, or
 > our warriors who love a good violent disturbance, or
 simply a tumultuous
 > place.
 > In Old English, Norse, and Frankish (however the
 heralds end up spelling
 > it) a
 > marc, mearc, mark, march, marche is a division of
 land. Markland was the
 > name
 > given to North America when the Norse first discovered
 it. Charlemagne
 > divided
 > his lands up into marks as a way to better govern it
 all. To offer some
 > validity
 >
 > to the name Hríthmarc there are multiple places in
 countries in various
 > times in
 >
 > period that have marc, mark, marche, or marck in their
 name...these include
 > many
 >
 > in Scandinavian and Germanic locations but also in
 Spain, France, and
 > Italy.
 > Feel free to look these locations up:
 >
 > Denmark
 > Danemarc
 > Finnmark
 > Hedmark
 > Telemark
 > Hennemarck
 >
 > Altmark
 > Mittelmark
 > Neumark
 > Uckermark
 > Ostmark
 >
 > Steiermark
 >
 > Marcha Hispanica
 >
 > Marche Limousine
 > Haute-Marche
 > Basse-Marche
 > La Marche
 >
 > And now for something a little different...
 > In Latin marca is a unit of currency a way of gaining
 wealth and influence
 > traits that the governance of the northern region is
 known for, as we host
 > some
 > of the wealthiest and most populated groups in the
 Kingdom.
 > In Gaelic Scotts and Old Irish the word marc means
 horse. The lands of
 > Northern
 > Oklahoma and Texas as well known for the importance of
 the horse in its
 > history
 > and even today.
 > In Old English the word mearc or marc is a boundry or
 territorial
 > deliniation
 > for a region or principality.
 > In modern English marc is a word for the matter left
 after fruit,
 > particularly
 > grapes, have been pressed. The people of the Northern
 Region are known for
 > their
 >
 > love of brewing.
 > A mark is also a symbol to delineate ownership as in
 marking your
 > territory...or...a symbol of quality as in a good
 mark...or...an omen of
 > things
 > to come.
 >
 > So as you think on this subject of names please think
 about Hríthmarc and
 > what
 > it could mean to you.
 >
 > Most Kindly
 > Ian
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 -- 
 HL Adalia VonderBerg
 
 There are two ways to be creative.  One can sing and
 dance.  OR one can
 create an environment where singers and dancers flourish -
 Warren Bennis
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