[Northkeep] Regional Names
Tadhg
ld_tadhg at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 1 06:58:32 PDT 2011
Greetings,
My pronunciation would be non-Castillian...who had a royal lisp.
I believe in Castillian (royal court) it would have been E-stray-zhah...at least, that's my memory of my Spanish teacher's explanation about 35 years ago (oh, that's just depressing.)
Regards,
Tadhg
...brick by brick
--- On Thu, 6/30/11, a a <princeisabitteroldman at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: a a <princeisabitteroldman at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Northkeep] Regional Names
> To: "The Barony of Northkeep" <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011, 8:29 PM
> Actually,I think you're
> wrong,Tadgh.Estrella is sometimes pronounced something
> like e-strel-yah,I believe.I think this is the way
> Castilian Spanish does it.I
> might be wrong;this what I remember from what my parents
> told me and what I
> spoke when I was a child.I lived in Spain when I was
> small.Point here is that
> there are REGIONAL differences in pronunciation.I lived in
> Zaragoza.
>
> Edward
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Tadhg <ld_tadhg at yahoo.com>
> To: The Barony of Northkeep <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Thu, June 30, 2011 1:26:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Northkeep] Regional Names
>
> Greetings,
>
> Estrella is both. E-stray-ah, in Spanish; E-strell-a in
> English/'merican.
>
> Okay, "wang" is pronounced "vvong" but the goober test is
> for the goobers not
> the name...so, yeah, I get your point, Angus.
>
> As for a name that bards will write to inspire the people,
> Adalia, you could
> write an inspiring war song if the name had 7 syllables and
> half the letters
> were "L".
>
> Regards,
> Tadhg
> ...brick by brick
>
>
> --- On Thu, 6/30/11, Adalia <adalia.nyx at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Adalia <adalia.nyx at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Northkeep] Regional Names
> > To: "The Barony of Northkeep" <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
> > Date: Thursday, June 30, 2011, 10:06 AM
> > While I agree with Angus' factors, I
> > would add a couple more.
> >
> > 1. Is it yell-able? Can it be used as war-cry
> > (This also includes no names
> > with "wang" in them for the goober rule as well).
> >
> > 2. Can the bards use it to write battle songs and
> > songs that inspire the
> > people? (I know this one will matter more to some
> > than it does to others,
> > but I'm one of those it matters to, so I'm adding to
> my
> > list...your mileage
> > may vary)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Angus MacKnochard
> <glnn_jhn at yahoo.com>wrote:
> >
> > > For me,
> > > the meaning of the name is way less important
> than
> > many other factors.
> > >
> > > how many kingdoms, or groups can you name, of
> those
> > how many of those names
> > > have
> > > meaning?
> > >
> > > 1. is it pro-nounc-able
> > >
> > > simple example............
> > >
> > > is it ESTRAY-A or ESTRELL-A
> > >
> > > 2. it must pass a GOOBER test
> > > does it just look stupid
> > >
> > > 3. Can you spell it, Can you type it?
> > > no odd symbols, punctuation,
> > dashes dots or non "standard amercan
> > > keyboard"
> > > characters.
> > >
> > > 4. nothing with the word Wang in it......see rule
> 2
> > >
> > > 5. I Do like the idea of something based on
> the
> > various Rune stones found
> > > around our region. now that has period ties
> > >
> > >
> > > Just my thoughtsAngus MacKnochard Bagadur
> > > ANDA GDH
> > > KSCA
> > > CSS LXVIII,
> > >
> > >
> > > snerta er vald
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Jerry Herring <j.t.herring at sbcglobal.net>
> > > To: Northkeep <northkeep at lists.ansteorra.org>
> > > Sent: Tue, June 28, 2011 2:09:12 PM
> > > Subject: [Northkeep] Regional Names
> > >
> > > Greetings All
> > > When it comes to the subject of a Northern
> Regional
> > name and the meaning
> > > that a
> > > name will hold for us I would like you to
> consider
> > Hríthmarc. This name
> > > could
> > > have several meanings to different people: in
> Old
> > English Hríth means
> > > tempest
> > > and what better term to describe northern Texas
> and
> > Oklahoma.. A land
> > > plagued by
> > >
> > > violent windstorms, especially ones with rain,
> hail,
> > or snow would be well
> > > described if it were had tempest in some part of
> its
> > name. In thinking of
> > > the
> > > people some of who are prone to making a lot of
> noise,
> > creating a
> > > commotion, or
> > > our warriors who love a good violent disturbance,
> or
> > simply a tumultuous
> > > place.
> > > In Old English, Norse, and Frankish (however the
> > heralds end up spelling
> > > it) a
> > > marc, mearc, mark, march, marche is a division
> of
> > land. Markland was the
> > > name
> > > given to North America when the Norse first
> discovered
> > it. Charlemagne
> > > divided
> > > his lands up into marks as a way to better govern
> it
> > all. To offer some
> > > validity
> > >
> > > to the name Hríthmarc there are multiple places
> in
> > countries in various
> > > times in
> > >
> > > period that have marc, mark, marche, or marck in
> their
> > name...these include
> > > many
> > >
> > > in Scandinavian and Germanic locations but also
> in
> > Spain, France, and
> > > Italy.
> > > Feel free to look these locations up:
> > >
> > > Denmark
> > > Danemarc
> > > Finnmark
> > > Hedmark
> > > Telemark
> > > Hennemarck
> > >
> > > Altmark
> > > Mittelmark
> > > Neumark
> > > Uckermark
> > > Ostmark
> > >
> > > Steiermark
> > >
> > > Marcha Hispanica
> > >
> > > Marche Limousine
> > > Haute-Marche
> > > Basse-Marche
> > > La Marche
> > >
> > > And now for something a little different...
> > > In Latin marca is a unit of currency a way of
> gaining
> > wealth and influence
> > > traits that the governance of the northern region
> is
> > known for, as we host
> > > some
> > > of the wealthiest and most populated groups in
> the
> > Kingdom.
> > > In Gaelic Scotts and Old Irish the word marc
> means
> > horse. The lands of
> > > Northern
> > > Oklahoma and Texas as well known for the
> importance of
> > the horse in its
> > > history
> > > and even today.
> > > In Old English the word mearc or marc is a
> boundry or
> > territorial
> > > deliniation
> > > for a region or principality.
> > > In modern English marc is a word for the matter
> left
> > after fruit,
> > > particularly
> > > grapes, have been pressed. The people of the
> Northern
> > Region are known for
> > > their
> > >
> > > love of brewing.
> > > A mark is also a symbol to delineate ownership as
> in
> > marking your
> > > territory...or...a symbol of quality as in a
> good
> > mark...or...an omen of
> > > things
> > > to come.
> > >
> > > So as you think on this subject of names please
> think
> > about Hríthmarc and
> > > what
> > > it could mean to you.
> > >
> > > Most Kindly
> > > Ian
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> >
> >
> > --
> > HL Adalia VonderBerg
> >
> > There are two ways to be creative. One can sing and
> > dance. OR one can
> > create an environment where singers and dancers
> flourish -
> > Warren Bennis
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