[PE - Getald pattern]

Wed Oct 18 06:37:17 PDT 2000

But the one I saw had the ends sewed closed, in the bell-shape.  These all
have open ends, and resemble strange-looking pup tents.  I would expect them
to need ropes to keep the lateral tension even, too.

I'll check your book references, see if maybe it's an interpretation of an
illustration.  The oval tent mystery remains unsolved.

--Wyllow

"Stephen Wyley" <svenskildbiter at angelfire.com> wrote:
> Have a look at:
> 
> http://www.42nd-dimension.com/NFPS/nfps_geteld.html
> 
> or
> 
> http://www.srl.rmit.edu.au/charles/Nordmannia/news/tent.htm
> 
> BTW, our garrison of the New Varangian Guard converted our Viking Tent into
Getald just be exchanging the poles. Getalds are some much easier to transport
and set up.
> 
> I guess it depends how you stack out the front and rear of a getalds wall
base it may appear to be bell affect. Also these areas are good for storage,
especially the rear section.
> 
> ---
> Bye for now,
> 
> Sven
> (Stephen Francis Wyley)
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> 
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2000 10:52:04   Stephen Wyley wrote:
> >Hi Wyllow,
> >
> >For more information see;
> >
> >924 A.D. (Book of Maccabees, from St.Gall)
> >10th century (Canterbury Psalter) 
> >10th -11th century (Psychomachia of Prudentius)
> >
> >http://www.geocities.com/svenskildbiter/Tents/10thcentury/10thcindex.html
> >
> >I will chase up the web site where the patterns are and get back to you.
> >
> >---
> >Bye for now,
> >
> >Sven
> >(Stephen Francis Wyley)
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> >
> >
> >
> >On 17 Oct 00 12:56:06 CDT   Wendy Freeman/Otte wrote:
> >>Sven, you caught me - I have no reference.  The gentle (I think it was
Toli, I
> >>know it was someone from MagMor, Calontir) who built the large oval tent
had a
> >>reputation as an excellent researcher, and I took him at his word.  My
web
> >>search, triggered by your challenge (and rightly so) has produced no
obvious
> >>results.  So, can anyone help me find the reference I am sure exists?
> >>
> >>Here is what I remember from my conversation with him, 4 years ago - it is
an
> >>Anglo, Saxon, or both tent from ?before 1000AD?.  It uses no ropes,
depending
> >>on the cloth of the tent to hold it up - the roof & sides are one cloth. 
Its
> >>shape is more like a huge pup tent, with bells closing either end, and a
slit
> >>cut into the middle of one side for the door.  It resembles the *roof* of
the
> >>french two-bell, reaching to the ground, although the pitch of the roof is
a
> >>lot steeper.
> >>
> >>Mira, did you have a reference/picture for the Bell wedge?  The
timeperiod
> >>doesn't match, but the description does.
> >>
> >>--Wyllow MacMuireadhaigh
> >>
> >>"Mira (Tanya Guptill)" <tguptill at teleport.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Stephen Wyley wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> > Hi Wendy,
> >>> >
> >>> > I am yet to come across such a tent as you describe.
> >>> >
> >>> > Can you quote your reference for this Angles large oval wedge?
> >>> 
> >>> It looks to me like it is the earlier form of a bell wedge, with the
slit
> >>door, ala
> >>> Tudor period.  If I'm correct, you see a lot more of these in period
than
> >>the
> >>> so-called French Bells (more common American Civil War, door is
different,
> >>althoug
> >>> there is evidence of the awning/door in Coburg in the mid 1600s).
> >>> 
> >>> Mira
> >>> 
> >>> Mira
> >>> 
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > ---
> >>> > Bye for now,
> >>> >
> >>> > Sven
> >>> > (Stephen Francis Wyley)
> >>> > Fortifications (Dictionary of Military Architecture, etc).
> >>> > http://www.angelfire.com/wy/svenskildbiter/index.html
> >>> > Archery, Arms, Armour, Chests, Tents, Trebuchets,
> >>> > Vikings, Woodwork.
> >>> > http://www.geocities.com/svenskildbiter/index.html
> >>> > Arrow Fletching, Turbow Longbows & Yoretymes Emporium of History
> >>> > http://svenskildbiter.webjump.com/index2.html
> >>> >
> >>> > On 2 Oct 00 08:56:11 CDT   Wendy Freeman/Otte wrote:
> >>> > >The Angles had a one-person-to-raise tent - it was a large oval
wedge
> >>with a
> >>> > >slit door in the center of the long side.  You peg all of the sides
down
> >>> > >first, then take the two poles into the tent, and raise the roof,
one
> >>pole at
> >>> > >a time.  No ropes - all based on tension.  Very few seams, so good
for a
> >>rainy
> >>> > >climate.
> >>> > >
> >>> > >One problem - I think its timeperiod of use was 700-900AD, maybe
> >>earlier.
> >>> > >
> >>> > >--Lady Wyllow of the Loch
> >>> >
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