RF - Give it a rest!!!

Tue Oct 17 22:11:44 PDT 2000

Hey, I didn't make the rules.  Don't shoot the messenger.

It is not that I can't verbalize issues.  It's that we can't contribute to ANY
issue brought up by others.

I'm sorry you're sick.  It is stressful when things are out of our control
isn't it.  Join the club.

Pax,
Marius

WolfSong wrote:

> For starters...  I was not aware of it... there had been posts on the
> Ansteorra list.. and  a few times on this one in which God was brought up.
> ANd maybe it should be... anyone ever think about that?  maybe there
> wouldn't be as much fighting.. if people all loved one another as a brother
> or sister..ever think about that???
>
> seccond..
>
> I am sure if Nikalus would wait for you to get there.. or get there on time.
> if thsi was really an issue that needed to be addressed.
>
> Let sleeping Dogs lie marius... I agree with Nikalus on this one too. and I
> am concerned.. because it floods my email box as well.. Private email... I'm
> sick of it... just as everyone else is.
>
> Im going to bed now.. i have an Exam in the morning...
>
> so have some "PAX"
>
> and live by what you write.
>
> Allie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: AMH/DBLJ <orthart at earthlink.net>
> To: <Ravensfort at ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 11:49 PM
> Subject: Re: RF - Give it a rest!!!
>
> > If it were talked about at populace, it would happen before I arrive.
> >
> > Again, this post is a way for the people in the Barony to communicate.  I
> HAVE
> > sent several private emails.  I HAVE in fact waited two or three and once
> four
> > days between emails.  I DID try contacting Niklas only first.  It did no
> good.
> > I wanted and have gotten support from people who have emailed me
> privately.  I
> > guess they don't want to catch the same flack that I have gotten.  This is
> not
> > just about me.  I'm sorry, I've never agreed with the "as long as most
> people
> > are happy, damn the rest of 'em" way of looking at things.
> >
> > Again, I am only looking for a compromise and a little fairness.
> >
> > I have seen your list many times before and thanks for your concern.
> However,
> > if there IS one thing that should NOT be talked about on a SCA post it is
> > religion !!!!!!!!!!!  Please read the rules governing the SCA and do not
> send
> > these sort of things.
> >
> > Pax,
> > Marius
> >
> >
> >
> > WolfSong wrote:
> >
> > >  ummm... you can do this in private too Marius... email those you are
> angery
> > > with and just keep the announcements for the email chain... IT makes
> people
> > > so much happier.. not to know what problems are arising.. unless... it
> > > affects the WHOLE barony.. then we can address it at populace.... in a
> calm
> > > mannor... i have alwys use dthe 24 hour rule... wait 24 hours.. if it
> still
> > > is agitatitive...then I pray and seek counsil. I understand that not all
> > > people Know God.. but still it gives time to settle things down... never
> > > attack things in anger.... this is what gets people defensive...and
> hurt...
> > > um... rules to live by:
> > >
> > > And I have tried to make it a point to know God will always direct you
> in
> > > any matter that you seek him in :
> > >
> > >   1. Take into account that great love and great achievements involve
> great
> > > risk.
> > >   2. When you lose, don't lose the lesson.
> > >   3. Follow the three R's:
> > >                   Respect for self
> > >                   Respect for others and
> > >                   Responsibility for all your actions.
> > >   4.Remember that not getting what you want is sometimes a wonderful
> stroke
> > > of luck.
> > >   5. Learn the rules so you know how to break them properly.
> > >   6. Don't let a little dispute injure a great friendship.
> > >   7. When you realize you've made a mistake, take immediate steps to
> correct
> > > it.
> > >   8. Spend some time alone every day.
> > >   9. Open your arms to change, but don't let go of your values.
> > > 10. Remember that silence is sometimes the best answer.
> > > 11. Live a good, honourable life. Then when you get older and think
> back,
> > > you'll be able to enjoy it a second time.
> > > 12. A loving atmosphere in your home is the foundation for your life.
> > > 13. In disagreements with loved ones, deal only with the current
> situation.
> > > Don't bring up the past.
> > > 14. Share your knowledge. It's a way to achieve immortality.
> > > 15. Be gentle with the earth.
> > > 16. Once a year, go someplace you've never been before.
> > > 17. Remember that the best relationship is one in which your love for
> each
> > > other exceeds your need for each other.
> > > 18. Judge your success by what you had to give up in order to get it.
> > > 19. Approach love and cooking with reckless abandon
> > > 20. Never apporach anything out of anger... then everyone get angry and
> the
> > > problem isn't solved, only gets worse.
> > > 21. Take time to reflect before you react.
> > >
> > > let just all get along for once.
> > >
> > > Allie
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: AMH/DBLJ <orthart at earthlink.net>
> > > To: <Ravensfort at ansteorra.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 10:28 PM
> > > Subject: Re: RF - Give it a rest!!!
> > >
> > > > If I could make the meat of the meetings this would not be my only
> option.
> > > The
> > > > reason that this problem has come about is because something in the
> > > Kingdom and
> > > > more specifically in the Barony HAS change.  I know exactly why I am
> here
> > > and
> > > > why I've been here for 18 years.  I and many others are not content to
> > > just sit
> > > > back and take whatever unpleasant things are handed us.  Especially
> when
> > > it
> > > > goes down the way it did.  This bulletin board is one way to get
> things
> > > out in
> > > > the open.  I'm sorry if that rattles your cage.    If life is nothing
> > > else, it
> > > > is change.  Get use to it.
> > > >
> > > > Pax,
> > > > Marius
> > > >
> > > > Draco of RavensFort wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >              This minor bickering and squabaling is really getting
> > > old!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Too many people are wearing thier feelings on thier shoulders. This
> > > group
> > > > > session is suposed to be so we can get more and better information
> about
> > > > > what is going on within the Barony and the SCA. It seems to have
> turned
> > > into
> > > > > a bullitin board for all personal opinions and complaints.  I am in
> this
> > > > > group volantarily for the fun. I don't agree all the time with
> everyone,
> > > but
> > > > > that is life.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am here to serve the kingdom and it's needs, not try to change it
> so
> > > that
> > > > > it suits my needs. If this offends you, stop and think about why you
> are
> > > > > here!!!
> > > > > DRACO & MITZI
> > > > >
> > >
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