[Ravensfort] To Sir Keif & Lord Marius....

Kief av Kiersted sirkief at hotmail.com
Sun Aug 12 12:22:55 PDT 2001

Heilsa the list...

The good Baron and List Master David Saint David did post:

>I have had several list members request that your posts be monitored.  I do
>not care to do so.  Please take your personal quarrels off line.

Good friends and neighbors.

I have done NOTHING to warrant being monitored. I have not cursed, not
engaged in name calling. I have spoken the truth and called for unity in
this Barony. If any have a problem with that...too bad. "If you can't stand
the heat...get out of the kitchen".

I have been personally attacked on this list as well as talked about behind
my back. That is slander and libel. This Society we belong to is based on
mutual Honor, Honesty, and Trust. I am defending myself against unwarranted
personal insults in the *public* forum that the attacks were posted in. If
*any* of you have a problem with that...I would ask you to put *yourself*
into my place. See how that particular shoe fits. This is NOT a personal
problem that I/we face. Several people on this list have attacked and/or
called into question the honesty and honor of the Crown, the Regional
Seneschal, the current seneschal of Raven's Fort, and at least two Peers of
the Realm. I have responded to those attacks in the best way I know how.
With FACTS and HARD DATA. None of the attackers have responded with any
thing but unsupported accusations, rumors, hearsay, and ad hominem attacks
against several people.

Neighbors, my responses are called FREE SPEECH. Freedom of speech includes
the right to say *anything* that you wish to say. However, slander and libel
are "free speech" that can be taken to a court of law.

I AM NOT "P.C."...

Personally, if *any* of you don't like what I'm saying on these
matters...you can *TELL ME PERSONALLY* and stop hiding like sniveling

If anyone feels that I'm being too harsh...then it's time for you to GROW UP
and take on some adult responsibility. Things like being responsible for
your own actions. Sticking to your word. Doing your duty as members of this
Barony and supporting the entity that allows you to enjoy the Society for
Creative Anachronism. Being a part of this Barony means not just "having
fun" or reveling...it means WORKING so that *everyone* can have a good time.
Lip service just doesn't cut it. Actions speak far louder than hollow words.


"There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch"

And if anyone doesn't understand the above statement you're living tto far
gone in your own fantasy world or are just a freeloader.

I *will* continue to address any and all *public* personal attacks and
attacks against this Barony, the Kingdom and it's representitives with
*public* responses. If these cause my posts to be "monitored" or cause me to
be "removed" from this *public* forum...so be it. I will not kow-tow or
"knuckle under" to anonymous whiners.

Wæs Þu Hæl in TroÞ and FriÞ...!
"Better the Hammer than the nail..."

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