[Ravensfort] To Sir Keif & Lord Marius....

AMH/DBLJ orthart at earthlink.net
Sun Aug 12 12:17:18 PDT 2001

No one has attacked the Barony or the Kingdom for some time.  The only thing
being attacked is your actions.  Why don't you focus on that rather than blow
smoke about other things ??  Your unrelated public rants fool no one that have
a clue as to what is going on.  The fantasy seems to be all yours.  You call
for Baronial unity while doing your best to ignore what others say and feel.

In service to the Barony,

Kief av Kiersted wrote:

> Heilsa the list...
> The good Baron and List Master David Saint David did post:
> >I have had several list members request that your posts be monitored.  I do
> >not care to do so.  Please take your personal quarrels off line.
> >
> >dsd
> >
> Good friends and neighbors.
> I have done NOTHING to warrant being monitored. I have not cursed, not
> engaged in name calling. I have spoken the truth and called for unity in
> this Barony. If any have a problem with that...too bad. "If you can't stand
> the heat...get out of the kitchen".
> I have been personally attacked on this list as well as talked about behind
> my back. That is slander and libel. This Society we belong to is based on
> mutual Honor, Honesty, and Trust. I am defending myself against unwarranted
> personal insults in the *public* forum that the attacks were posted in. If
> *any* of you have a problem with that...I would ask you to put *yourself*
> into my place. See how that particular shoe fits. This is NOT a personal
> problem that I/we face. Several people on this list have attacked and/or
> called into question the honesty and honor of the Crown, the Regional
> Seneschal, the current seneschal of Raven's Fort, and at least two Peers of
> the Realm. I have responded to those attacks in the best way I know how.
> With FACTS and HARD DATA. None of the attackers have responded with any
> thing but unsupported accusations, rumors, hearsay, and ad hominem attacks
> against several people.
> Neighbors, my responses are called FREE SPEECH. Freedom of speech includes
> the right to say *anything* that you wish to say. However, slander and libel
> are "free speech" that can be taken to a court of law.
> I AM NOT "P.C."...
> Personally, if *any* of you don't like what I'm saying on these
> matters...you can *TELL ME PERSONALLY* and stop hiding like sniveling
> cowards.
> If anyone feels that I'm being too harsh...then it's time for you to GROW UP
> and take on some adult responsibility. Things like being responsible for
> your own actions. Sticking to your word. Doing your duty as members of this
> Barony and supporting the entity that allows you to enjoy the Society for
> Creative Anachronism. Being a part of this Barony means not just "having
> fun" or reveling...it means WORKING so that *everyone* can have a good time.
> Lip service just doesn't cut it. Actions speak far louder than hollow words.
> T.A.N.S.T.A.A.F.L.
> "There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch"
> And if anyone doesn't understand the above statement you're living tto far
> gone in your own fantasy world or are just a freeloader.
> I *will* continue to address any and all *public* personal attacks and
> attacks against this Barony, the Kingdom and it's representitives with
> *public* responses. If these cause my posts to be "monitored" or cause me to
> be "removed" from this *public* forum...so be it. I will not kow-tow or
> "knuckle under" to anonymous whiners.
> Wæs ?u Hæl in Tro? and Fri?...!
> Kief
> "Better the Hammer than the nail..."
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