[Ravensfort] Calm thoughtful letter...was...Ok people...

AMH/DBLJ orthart at earthlink.net
Sun Jun 3 23:38:49 PDT 2001


Very well spoken.  I couldn't agree with you more about attending the meeting.
Hopefully there will be standing room only with people pouring out of the
doors.  I only wish I could be there (and that there would be press taking an
exit poll so we could have some idea of what the barony really thinks).

In the "bickering" (between R's attacks) I found jewels of truth.  (There were
even truths in some of what he said.)  The fact that you do not have the same
fears as several others in the barony does not mean that they are unfounded.
I'm sure that we will all live through this.  Hopefully we will all still be
friends.  It just makes some of us nervous when there are no checks or
balances.  "Trust in Allah, but tie your camel."

Yes it was a cheap shot.  It had a direct connection to what I was talking
about.  Too good to pass up.  Not the first time that mundane things were
mentioned on this list.  Not the first time that a cheap shot was made at a too
easy target.  I've seen you take a few shots yourself.  Sorry, I can't feel bad
about it and I'll probably do it again if shoe fits as well.

Again, you were very well spoken.  I hope our next Baron is as fair and deep as
you were.

Pax,
Marius


Kief av Kiersted wrote:

> Heilsa the list...
>
> Marius (mka Doug) said:
>
> >From: AMH/DBLJ <orthart at earthlink.net>
>
> *********
> >To all the people that are complaining about "this bickering", sorry to
> >wake you up with these important issues.  Perhaps you should learn how to
> >use your delete key so the others of us that are interested can have a
> >forum.  Thanks.
> *********
>
> The "bickering" has consisted of the unfounded fears of one or two people
> and the ravings of a psychotic sociopath. Any reasoned responses to these
> folks posts have been twisted and "edited" to "prove" the point of the
> dissenters.  While there are problems in the Barony...just like every other
> chapter of the SCA...those problems are not so deep or troublesome as to
> cause major or long term damage to the group as a whole. With few exceptions
> each and every member of this Barony are welcome in each others homes. We
> all work together on projects, we play together at events, and we all
> seemingly have the same goals. One major goal is the advancement and growth
> of the Barony of Ravens' Fort.
>
> To that end, good my friends and neighbors, please consider just who you
> will nominate this Thursday. Each of you can nominate any couple in the
> Barony you consider to be worthy of the high seats of Baroness and Baron.
> They do not have to be a "couple" in the traditional sense...just good
> friends that share a common dream of being Nobles in the Current Middle
> Ages.
>
> I also urge each and every one of you that live in the perimeters of this
> Barony to come to the meeting this Thursday...if not to nominate then most
> certainly to cast your opinion on the matter at hand. The more people that
> we have at the meeting, to ask questions of the nominees, to express doubts
> or to extol the virtues of the nominees, the better for all of us in the
> long run. Folks...this is *your* Barony...there are those of us that have
> seemingly been "in the game" forever...I might seem to be one of those folks
> myself...but...once 17 years ago I attended my first populace meeting and
> fighter practice. There were those that had been "in the game" for years
> longer than I...and I felt then somewhat like many of you do now. However, I
> stayed the course...when things did not go the way I felt they should go...I
> bitched and complained...*smile*...but I did not quit. I worked long and
> hard to do what I thought was right and correct. Some battles I won others I
> lost...but I never quit. I have been a rebel most of my life...yet I have
> learned that sometimes to change the system a person has to work *within*
> the system. This I have done...and over the years changed the way things
> have are done in the system. I still see many things that could be better
> than they are now...I will continue to be the "rebel" and continue to work
> *within* the system.
>
> Raven's Fort is a dynamic place these days...we have *many* more folks
> playing that we ever had before. We all have our opinions and differences...
> Yet the fact remains that most all of us still play *together* rather than
> let our differences tear us apart. So...good my companions and fellow
> travelers...gird up your loins and stick to *your* course...the Barony will
> be the stronger for it in the long run...*we* will be the better for it in
> the long run. I am looking forward to seeing each of you at this Thursdays
> meeting. Call your friends and neighbors to inform them of what is
> happening. Car pool to get everyone here to the meeting.
>
> Those of you that play with another group but reside in the Barony have a
> stake in this as well... *Your* opinion's will help shape the future of this
> Barony...*you* get to be a part of the process that will choose the leaders
> of a strong neighbor to *your* home group.
>
> And to those that reside in neighboring chapters yet claim Raven's Fort as
> home...please attend and witness the process that will decide the next folks
> that sit the Raven Thrones of our Barony. Ask questions, give comment, be a
> part of the decision...as much as you can given the circumstances dictated
> by the Crown and Crown Heirs of Ansteorra.
>
> **********
> >Now you
> >can go back to sleep again the was America did when King George W. the
> >Usurper and his stinky big money friends stole the election in December.
> >
> >Pax,
> >Marius
> **********
>
> This type of mundane petty cheap shot has no place on this list. I request
> that you keep your personal mundane political ravings limited to private
> conservation or private correspondance.
>
> That having been said...
>
> Doug...my congratulations on the upcoming nuptials of your daughter. I wish
> her new family and your new in-laws the very best of luck...!
>
> Wæs ?u Hæl in Tro? and Fri?...!
> Kief
> "Better the Hammer than the nail..."
>
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