[Ravensfort] is anyone going to MENTION THE F'ING B&B SITUATION?

[KING Of The Firemonkeys]

>
>Many (not all) of the statements you made about the candidates are either
>out
>of date or just down right wrong.

ok, which?   i said lizardkeep don't wanna be B&B????? is this wrong out of
date?   PLEASE LET ME KNOW as i'm the one that just got through
blowing their horns! (i used that turn of phrase JUST for you doug do with
it what you will*smile*)

or is sigurd ABLE to be baron after all?

do you think Cedric and Katrine stand a chance? we'll see won't we.
Brian has been told why i said what i did i think it's pretty self frikin
explanitory and very simple to understand and the fact is"he said it then or
he didn't" if he didn't or he's changed his mindset fine then he may have
changed OR I MAY have MISJUDGED HIM! emagine that!and i'll say so if it
turns out that way....
and as for paul i'm sorry but he does it to himself... like me and YOU
*smile*
that's the ONLY disqualifing i've done. and i don't disqualify cedric and
katrine their good people and friends of mine and if they are picked i'll be
godda&* flabbergasted and the most bootkissing king worshiping sonafa%&^*
you ever saw groveling to show how impressed i am and happy dreams can come
true in the sca still a little kid can still grow up to be president.... but
i was born the year they shot J.F.K. so don't expect me to hold my breath...


attack the king and system..... hmmmmmmmm nah i didn't attack the KING
i attacked the IDEA OF ROYAL INFAILIBILITY and even the pope gave that up!
so whats the problem?*GRIN* as for attacking the SYSTEM!
WELL HELL YEEEEEEES MARIUS OLD BEAN IT'S MY NATURE TO ATTACK PERCIEVED
WEAKNESSES OR FLAWS IN THE SYSTEM ! it's WHAT I DO!
and it's the wolves nipping at the heels of the caribou that make the
caribou stronger runners!
again, WHAT IS THE POINT!? *smile*

as to my "problem" you know your right !  but if i say it here maybe some
day someone will look through the archives and see the historical
perspective of how RIGHT i was.... or NOT.... actually i hope NOT!
*grin*



  You have disqualified out of hand too many
>good people and then attacked the King and the system.  You have the same
>problem that I do.  If you make too much noise... people quit listening.
>
>Pax,
>Marius
>
>
>KING Of The Firemonkeys wrote:
>
> > not to be a pain, BUT! the B&B sitch. is WHY i subscribed to this
>flipping
> > list. and it's geting to be a BIGOL pain in my ass that NO ONE
> > BUT ME has put forth a candidate idea.
> > oh i'm quite sure that you've all been busy little beavers scurring
>around
> > in peoples living rooms or private e mailing. but the fact is
> > your managing to keep everyone BUT YOUR LITTLE CLIQUE in the dark as to
>whom
> > is even a candidate for the chairs. so i'd just like to thank you all
>for
> > your bullshit little political games and the usual "under the table" way
> > that things of importance get handled what pray tell is the reason FOR
>this
> > list? to talk about TABLES? their is precious little time left. but
>you'll
> > all sit in your living rooms and TALK a great deal about who you want
>for
> > B&B abd then you'll go to the meeting and fragment all over the place.
>and
> > the crown will get a good idea of how we as a barony can't agree on
>SHIT.
> > and pick who they want  (which is how it prolly would go anyway)so why
>do i
> > bother ?
> > cause i cared AGAIN....
> > what happened.           since no one ELSE will say what they think
> > NOT OUT LOUD ANYWAYS
> > i will
> > for the good of the barony this is what i see...
> >
> > the lizardkeepers(GWYNN) are too happy helping run shit behind the
>scenes.
> > and sigurd has a job that won't let him be baron etc.
> > and kief don't want it
> >
> > so that leaves us with PAUL and kezia (kezia i think would rock as a
> > baroness (REALLY REALLY) paul is a power mad hothead with a big NEED to
> > PROVE himself to the kingdom power folks i think he has a compulsive
>need to
> > over compensate for a deepseated bad self image.
> > in short he's not good baron material (yet)
> >
> > Brian du val and jacinth.... brian is a great guy but not strong enough.
>the
> > "let's walk out now" attitude he displayed at Ren. over the compound
>issue
> > was the kicker here for me. it was the mark of a quitter. he gave up too
> > easy and lost my support.
> > jacinth is a nice lady, but like brian i need to see some claws to earn
> > respect from ME. but she's a great lady of good heart.
> > one thing i would like to say Aela(SP?) what's wrong with her???
> > she'd make a fine baroness too! (a little too close to berta for my
>tastes)
> > but strong enough not to be a puppet! and i like the idea of already
>married
> > or attached B&B's,less problems (not every woman is JANE*whatta lady*)
>nuff
> > said.
> > well that seems to be the only contenders that i've heard of ..
> >
> > except,    Cedric and Katrine (two nice folks) and not a thing bad to
>say
> > about either one of them.
> > but they stand little if any chance of becoming B&B against the puppets
> > already groomed for the jobs.the "fix" has been in for about a year or
>so
> > now from what i could see. those of you who KNOW me(read hang with in
>the
> > real world) know what i'm talking about... i've been driving you crazy
>with
> > all this for too long now. well here we are
> > choosing who to support, WHY the SILENCE only assures the crown and the
>B&B
> > a clear field to choose who THEY want.
> > OUR input will be fragmented into so many personal little groups that no
>ONE
> > will have a clear baronial mandate and NO ONE but their Maj's
> > will have any idea what the numbers WERE so who's to know who WAS most
> > popular or whether the poll made any difference at all.
> > see this is why PUBLIC elections/polls PUBLISH the results.
> > but the king and queen may do as they wish.
> > and we can like it or lump it.
> > the barony won't likely BE a barony after this if people LEAVE because
>they
> > don't like the leadership or grouse and bicker AFTER IT'S TOO LATE.
>america
> > may be able to take it with BUSH  but not us.
> > i see the danger for SERIOUS rifts over this shit.
> > and the only way to head that off is to OPEN UP!
> > SPEAK NOW OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE!
> > cause i don't want to hear a bunch of crap about "we shoulda" "i just
>KNEW
> > IT" and all that shit AFTER the choice is made from people who are
>silent
> > NOW!
> > speak up!
> > WHO DO YOU WANT!
> > who is WILLING to be B&B??
> > who are our mother F'ing CHOICES???
> > if their Maj's are going to ride all the way DOWN HERE for this...
> > then it's just good manners(YEAH I said it! shut up an quit sniggering)
> >       it's just good manners to have some idea of what the hell we DO
>want!
> > other wise you'll just have a bunch of wasted time bickering and making
>us
> > look bad after the nominations are made and before the poll
> > why not do the nominations NOW!
> >
> > find out who's willing and post is here !
> > bicker and weigh them NOW
> > and present a (mostly) united choice to their maj's when they come
> > and HAVE A SHOT at choosing OUR OWN B&B
> > instead of giving their Maj's a bunch of names to wade through
> > and getting what we get and having to adjust to it.
> >
> > i don't much like the way it's set up to begin with
> > a guy with a stick kicks ass and wins crown for ONE YEAR.
> > and this gives him the right to choose who rules over ME for
> > WHO KNOWS HOW LONG???       WHAT?      how is this smart?
> > it's a lame ass attempt to recreate medieval politcal forms
> > one thing to remember,
> >
> > KINGS LASTED MORE THAN A YEAR IN MOST CASES!    everyone in the SCA
> > keeps saying "crown" "the crown" "kingdom" like it had some CLOUT
> > like it has some SACRED POWER!
> > IT'S A LUCKY OR SKILLFUL STICK JOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > who is done in a year...
> > and we'll be stuck with who they pick.
> > forever and a day.
> > unless we further MARR our image and OUST them?
> > or suffer further watching the barony slip away from the populace.
> > and when i say populace      i mean the REAL populace!
> > the ass loads of people who go to the stones during events!
> > not the little group of people who go to meetings, and hold offices,
> > and ingage in the political bullshit power plays about how many regional
> > offices "WE" hold and all that crap.
> >
> > the barony of Ravensfort exists when those gates open and the stones
> > ring with cheers and laughter.
> > everything else is crap.
> > and that is what's been ignored for too long.
> > keep this shit up!
> > you'll be back to being a shire/canton(?) of stargate again soon
> > because a lot of us will be starting our own group.(don't worry it's NON
> > sca.) by the way people..?    you ever wonder what it would be like to
>do a
> > group that blends Amptguard and SCA styles?
> > well i've raved enough at you all
> > i'll wait three days to unsubscribe to allow you a chance to address
>this.
> >
> > RAGAN
> >
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safe journeys, and remember;
RAGAN IS A GOD!
DEATH TO THE UNBELIEVERS!

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