[Ravensfort] List Postings ! ! !

Kief av Kiersted sirkief at yahoo.com
Wed Mar 2 16:09:35 PST 2005

Heilsa Mr. Hoffpauir...

Since you asked for clarification.

It's simple actually. It's the same disaffected few that caused
all the problems four years ago. And now, those that they have
duped into believing they have "done nothing wrong".

Doug B. LeJeune
David Epps
Charlotte Epps

and now add

David R. Hoffpauir

Time and distance from the events of years past have not changed
the nature of their wrongful acts nor has it erased the memory of
that wrongdoing.

If you or anyone else has a "problem" with this...sue me. You
can't change the facts nor can you "revise" history.

I wish you a good day.

Kief, Vicar
"Better the Hammer than the nail..."


--- "David R. Hoffpauir" <env_drh at shsu.edu> wrote:

> Hey Barbara,
> Right on!  They made a wise choice, I'm sure the Crown had your
> full support
> and council.
> I have a question.  As you know, I completely stepped away from
> the SCA just
> about three years ago.  Quit going to meetings, fighter
> practices, work
> days, hanging out with SCA people (aside from a few personal
> friends who are
> mostly like all Raven's Hearts, Court Baronies, Knights, and
> Dons and such).
> I quit talking about SCA things, was off the RF list for almost
> 2 years, and
> quit going to
> events.  I've maybe been to four events total since you guys
> stepped up.
> And, of course, you know, I spent most of your first year as
> B&B in Killeen,
> then Berta's Grandpa was ill, then she and I split up, she
> bought a house,
> moved out, yada, yada, yada, life goes on, so not much time to
> focus on SCA
> stuff, plus, on top of it all, after 7 1/2 fun, exciting, and
> prosperous
> years as one of the local Landed Nobles, I just needed a break.
>  I'm sure
> you understand.  Anyway, point being, I'm out of the loop and
> would like to
> become active again, but have some new faces to meet.
> So who is this unnamed, lingering menace again?  Paul has
> mentioned them,
> now you've mentioned them.  Even HE Lorraine has eluded to them
> over on the
> Amazon list.  I just wanna steer clear if they're all that bad.
>   All I need
> is another trusted confidant, advisor, or friend who doesn't
> mind dragging
> my name through the mud, gut-slitting my every effort, or
> talking smack,
> like all around the Kingdom, you know.  Darn shame, got to
> watch your back
> these days.  From your words, I'd say it sounds like the SCA
> isn't quite as
> friendly and open as it was four years ago.  Oh well, times
> change.  Good
> luck in Austin.  :)
> Vivez dans la paix, victoire dans la guerre
> dsd
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Barbara Gilbert" <kezia at pbgilbert.net>
> To: <ravensfort at ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 8:02 PM
> Subject: [Ravensfort] congradulations
> > I send hearty good wishes and support for Sir Kief and
> Mistress Lorraine
> on
> > becoming the Vicar and Vicaress of Ravens Fort. They did not
> seek this
> job,
> > but because of all the crap that has come from this Barony in
> the last 3+
> > years the Crown felt this was best for Ravens Fort. Keif and
> Lorraine
> travel
> > playing on a kingdom level and have for years. They know and
> talk to
> people
> > from every group within the Barony. They understand what the
> expectations
> > are, and they understand SCA rules and policies. The Crown
> has charged
> them
> > to teach the ways of the current SCA, to help the Barony
> grow, and to
> > protect it from those that would set it backwards.
> >
> > The officers, Barony Guard and the Order of the Raven have
> been given the
> > same charge. Keif and Lorraine are the new leadership of
> Ravens Fort,
> chosen
> > by the Crown. Congratulations.
> >
> > Kezia


>From: "David R. Hoffpauir" <env_drh at shsu.edu>
>Reply-To: The Barony of Ravensfort <ravensfort at ansteorra.org>
>To: "The Barony of Ravensfort" <ravensfort at ansteorra.org>
>Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] List Postings ! ! !
>Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 15:04:50 -0600
>Hey Shane,
>There's nothing fiery there dude.  An issue was thrown out in
>proceeding posts, and I asked for clarification.  That's how you
>conflict.  You know, ask questions.  Accept and/ or evaluate the
answers you
>are given. This is a discussion list.  Or at least, it was,
during the,
>whatever, 9 years when I ran it.
>Granted, I have a sharp tongue, especially in the written word,
so if
>someone is offended, I apologize.  If someone reads the post and
>themself somehow reflected in my words, then that's good.  We
have common
>ground from which to find an aminable resolution.  Let's talk. 
It's those
>who internalize their concerns and fail to ask the appropriate
>that find demons at every turn.
>Vivez dans la paix, victoire dans la guerre
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Shane Wallace" <sdwsdw30 at totalzone.com>
>To: "The Barony of Ravensfort" <ravensfort at ansteorra.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 1:53 PM
>Subject: [Ravensfort] List Postings ! ! !
> > Greetings,
> >
> >     Before the "Soap Opera" begins, I would like to make a
plea for
> > PEACE. During a time of transition, regardless if you in
agreement or
> > disagreement with crown and the powers to be, WE need to
stick together
> > as Friends and Family should. If you truly care about the
group, then
> > please keep fiery postings off the Main Raven's Fort List.
Send them
> > through means of Private email.
> >
> >     At a time like this WE must do what is best for the WHOLE
group. I
> > would like to remind the populace that... We are friends...
We are a
> > family in our own right. Please do what is best for the
group. Please ! !
> >
> > In Service to the Dream, Kingdom, and Barony,
> > Lord Malcolm De Crauford
> > Seneschal of Raven's Fort
> >
> > P.S. If anyone is in disagreement with what I have posted,
you may
> > contact me directly at
> > sdwsdw30 at totalzone.com

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