[Ravensfort] New regalia

[L T]

The dual coronet box is in the large amount of pass down items that
I am holding in trust for the next B&B. It would be much better
to have to two separate boxes...especially when each of the principle's
go to different events.

As you do, I also believe, that the Baronial Coronets are " "the" defining piece of regalia, a
token of the contract and duty you bear as the representative of the Crown." 

But I believe that they should represent the duty/burden and not the individual.

Because on stepping up...you no longer represent yourself...but in all things SCA 
and in all interactions between the SCA and the modern world...you are the Barony.
 
Also, the Baronial Coronets should be "of the Barony" as the Crowns that Their
Majesties wear are "of Ansteorra" for the Baron and Baroness are the direct
representatives of the King and Queen.

Lorraine

--- "David R. Hoffpauir" <env_drh at shsu.edu> wrote:

> You might check with Chrystal, but at one time we actually had boxes for the 
> Baronial Coronets.  Or at least "a box".  I think it held two coronets.  I 
> don't recall she and I ever using it, 'cause the hats didn't fit, but they 
> were a part of the regalia passed down to us. For some reason I recall there 
> were ravens for hinges and it opened up really funny like. Could be that it 
> was privately owned, but I do recall it being in the regalia box.
> 
> Anyway, check with Berta.  Her brains are a bit less scrambled.
> 
> As far as coronets go, we've traditionally allowed the stepper uppers to 
> commission their own.  That way they can take them when they step down.  No 
> reason to remain that way, but they really do become sentimental reminders 
> to those who bear them, so keep that in mind.
> 
> Personally I feel they are "the" defining piece of regalia, a token of the 
> contract and duty you bear as the representative of the Crown.  In our 
> history, each coronet has uniquely defined it's bearer to all who gaze upon 
> them.  To see that coronet upon another someday will seem odd.  Heh, I once 
> borrowed Keif's tuna can for Court and, in wearing it, it never did feel 
> right.  In a way I felt unworthy.  So, just things to consider as we are 
> deciding a course of action.
> 
> regards,
> dsd
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <fionna at cox.net>
> To: <ravensfort at ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 3:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] New regalia
> 
> 
> > Well, I have a few ideas for some things...
> >
> > Capes - I would like to see some period fabrics used, nothing fancy or too 
> > heavy (ie.
> > too hot) maybe some light wool and/or lightweight linen.  Preferably 
> > machine
> > washable.
> >
> > Boxes for Coronets - I had several ideas for these.  First, I think it 
> > would look great to
> > have the outside decorated with the baronial arms, the badges of the 
> > baronial
> > awards, and of course, an Ansteorran black star.  Second, I think it would 
> > be nice to
> > line the box with the anti-tarnish fabric used in silverware chests. 
> > Third, I thought it
> > might help to include some of the little packets of silica gel that absorb 
> > moisture
> > behind the lining (I can save these from the hard drives that pass through 
> > where I
> > work.)
> >
> > Anyone else have any ideas or suggestions?
> >
> > Fionna
> >
> >
> > On Monday, October 24, 2005 at 4:54, Corbisier, Barbara L wrote regarding 
> > [Ravensfort] New regalia:
> >
> >> Greetings, all!
> >>
> >> We're going to have a polling, and you know what happens after a
> >> polling--that's right, an investiture.  Give yourselves a bonus point
> >> for the right answer.
> >>
> >> Investitures generally involve things like coronets and other regalia,
> >> like cloaks or other nifty things like that.  Raven's Fort doesn't have
> >> these things handy, so we need to get/make them.
> >>
> >> What ideas do people have for coronets?  I'd like to see something
> >> really spiffy that incorporates the parts of our Baronial device.  I'm
> >> thinking garnets (red stones), moonstones (for the white circle on the
> >> device), and supporters of ravens (on either side of the stones holding
> >> them up).
> >>
> >> Capes--same basic question.  What do you think would make the Barony
> >> look best while on the backs of our new Baron & Baroness?  (That didn't
> >> come out quite right.  But I think you all know what I mean.) I think
> >> something in black with a red/white crenelated border (the "castle
> >> wall") around the edge, and the device appliqued in the middle.  Any
> >> preferences for fabric type?
> >>
> >> What other regalia ideas do you have?  We'll need boxes for the
> >> coronets, some new cushions would be nice, etc.
> >>
> >> Let's get the ideas going and get some volunteers!  This is our
> >> opportunity to shine in front of the Kingdom, so let's make the most of
> >> it!
> >>
> >> In service,
> >> Lady Catherine Barbary
> >> Seneschal, Raven's Fort
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> Orationem pulchram non habens, scribo ista linea in lingua Latina.
> >>
> >>
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