[Ravensfort] New regalia
David R. Hoffpauir
env_drh at shsu.edu
Wed Oct 26 12:27:28 PDT 2005
EEK! I tried to read your post but it was like fortune telling with
spaghetti. I think you intend we start with sumptuary laws, which is a good
suggestion.
As ideas emerge, I'll toss in my two cents, but mostly on the practical
side. Fancy is great, but they can be a pain. Pearls get bent and broke
pretty easy, so removable, replaceable pearls are the only way to go!
Points wear heavy on cloth, so take that into consideration for the box or
bag it goes in. If we make boxes, we've got to coordinate between makers on
that too, elsewise you'll end up tote'n the hats in a bread sack or hanging
it on the rearview mirror! :)
Also you really don't want to perch a Tutor coronet on a Viking persona, so
simplicity of style might be a consderation for pass downs.
Lemme stew on it and read back through the sumtuary laws. In the end, this
should be a collective project, but time is short. I might do some drawings
just to get us going, but everyone should be thinking on what they should
look like.
dsd
----- Original Message -----
From: <fionna at cox.net>
To: "The Barony of Ravensfort" <ravensfort at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] New regalia
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> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">Well, I
> think a good place to start would be the Kingdom's Coronet Sumptuary Laws,
> so we can see what is and is not permissible. This information can
> be found at:</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><a
> href="http://www.ansteorra.org/publications/law/Jun2005_Ansteorra_Law.pdf"><font
> face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt"><u>Kingdom Law - June
> 2005</u></span></font></a></div>
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> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">Article
> IX : Coronet Sumptuary Laws</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">Section
> 5 : Baronial Coronets </span></font></div>
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> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">A. All
> barons and baronesses have the right to wear one of the following as a
> </span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">sign of
> their rank: </span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">1.
> Flat-topped coronets may have 6 to 12 spherical projections of no more
> </span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">than
> ½ inch diameter extending from the top of the coronet. It is
> </span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span
> style="font-size:10pt">recommended that flat-topped baronial coronets be
> made clearly wider </span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">than
> fillets. </span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">2.
> Engrailed coronets may have up to six points or projections, which may
> </span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">be
> surmounted by spherical projections of no more than ½ inch diameter.
> </span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">The line
> of the coronet between points must be smoothly concave, in order
> </span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">to
> clearly distinguish them from county coronets. </span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">B.
> Territorial barons and baronesses have the exclusive right to wear
> baronial </span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">coronets
> decorated with the arms, ensign, or badge of their barony. A laurel
> </span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">wreath
> may only be included as part of the arms of the barony. A baronial
> </span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">coronet
> should not have the personal insignia of the baron or baroness, since it
> </span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">is not a
> personal coronet, but one that represents the barony. </span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">C.
> Former territorial barons and baronesses of Ansteorra may display
> an</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span
> style="font-size:10pt">Ansteorran Star on their baronial
> coronets.</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">D. Court
> barons and baronesses have the right to wear standard baronial coronets,
> </span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">as long
> as the decorations do not violate existing sumptuary laws.
> </span></font></div>
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> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span
> style="font-size:10pt">Fionna</span></font></div>
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> <div align="left"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt">On
> Wednesday, October 26, 2005 at 17:36, Corbisier, Barbara L wrote regarding
> Re: [Ravensfort] New regalia:</span></font></div>
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> <div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#00007f"><span
> style="font-size:10pt">> While I admit I hadn't considered the
> sentimental value argument, you've</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#00007f"><span
> style="font-size:10pt">> got a good point. However, we have to be
> practical right now. We won't</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#00007f"><span
> style="font-size:10pt">> know who the new B&B are until Stargate
> Yule. That would leave them a</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#00007f"><span
> style="font-size:10pt">> month to get something made if they wanted to
> get something personal,</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#00007f"><span
> style="font-size:10pt">> which is really pushing things. There is
> also the cost to get coronets</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#00007f"><span
> style="font-size:10pt">> commissioned. It's not insubstantial,
> and with holiday travel and such,</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#00007f"><span
> style="font-size:10pt">> that might not be the best time to expect our
> new B&B to be able to come</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#00007f"><span
> style="font-size:10pt">> up with that kind of cash. Having
> personal coronets comissioned for</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#00007f"><span
> style="font-size:10pt">> their stepping down would be more practical, I
> think.</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#00007f"><span
> style="font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#00007f"><span
> style="font-size:10pt">> Do you have any artistic suggestions as to
> what the baronial coronets</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#00007f"><span
> style="font-size:10pt">> should look like? </span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#00007f"><span
> style="font-size:10pt">> </span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#00007f"><span
> style="font-size:10pt">> In service,</span></font></div>
> <div align="left"><font face="Arial" color="#00007f"><span
> style="font-size:10pt">> Catherine </span></font></div>
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