[Ravensfort] site rules

byzytym byzytym at att.net
Tue Jun 17 20:35:53 PDT 2008


To everyone that reads this list,

This was a momentary laps on my part.  My apologies were sent almost immediately to our Seneschal, our Baron and our Baroness.  Now I give my deep apologize to everyone else.  My complaint was worded badly and I missed the point that I was trying to make.  My sincere apologizes for the disturbance.  

I have not been in the Raven's Fort Brewers Guild for several years now.  However, the hard work that these people do is a major part of what drives this Barony forward.  We don't have many heavy or light fighters, we don't dance, we don't even travel to other events very much.  We do cook and brew, we do have a few strong artisans and we do have a new college group.  All of these things that this barony excels in are nurtured by the very cluster of devoted long timers that are panelized most by the arbitrary site rules.   The Brewers Guild is the most active guild in the Barony of Raven's Fort, hands down.  To say that they can not display their talents at an event that is specifically designed for that reason is beyond reason.   It's one thing to dictate safety rules and land damage control, but it is another thing to set SCA event policy.  Either say no alcohol or say the site is wet.  Deciding who and when alcohol is to be served at an SCA event is jurisdiction of the SCA.  It is still my greatest hope that our local craftsmen will be allowed to present the fruits of their research at Defender of the Fort.

Again, please excuse my clumsy outrage.


Pax,
MARIVS

"what shall it profit a man,
if he shall gain the whole world,
and lose his own soul ?"



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: byzytym 
  To: byzytym ; ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org 
  Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:37 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] site rules


  I would like to make a statement strictly as an individual and a long time member of the Barony of Raven's Fort.  

  I feel that the land agent over stepped reason when making up his arbitrary rules when it comes to on site taverns.  The rules seem to be directed at specific individuals for personal reasons, rather than to correct any problems that has arisen in the past or any breach of SCA or mundane law or any request that the land owners themselves have made.  Of course, we have no way to know the desires of the land owners since the SCA has never been allowed to deal directly with the land owners.  The imbalance of the site rule policy is notably demonstrated by the fact that in the same period of time: the old Raven's Fort Tavern was forcibly evicted (for fabricated infractions) by the land agent, the current site rules were issued by the land agent and the on site "Mead Hall" was built by the land agent.   I will not presume to suggest a solution to this dilemma of secrecy and whim.  Perhaps the officers of the Barony can facilitate a return to a fair site policy that embraces the true spirit of our society.  

  That said, the Autocrat of the Defender of the Fort event shall enforce what ever is handed up from the site rule dictator no matter how calculated.  


  Pax,
  MARIVS

  "what shall it profit a man,
  if he shall gain the whole world,
  and lose his own soul ?"



  ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: byzytym 
    To: byzytym ; doug bell ; ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org 
    Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:09 AM
    Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] site rules


    If the rules are not updated this is the most resent version that we will go with for Defender.  There will be an Autocrat's amendment added.


    Pax,
    MARIVS

    "what shall it profit a man,
    if he shall gain the whole world,
    and lose his own soul ?"


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    SITE RULES FOR THE STONES OF RAVEN'S FORT ON THE DORRELL RANCH

    -----

    GENERAL

    This is working Ranch and hunting lease. If you open a gate,
    close it behind you. Do not agitate any livestock. Do not kill or
    attempt to kill any wild animals. Do not cut down any live trees
    or their limbs. Do not use nails, bolts, hooks, wire, etc, in any
    tree.

    Do not cross fence lines onto any neighbor's property.

    Do not leave small children unattended or sleeping in a tent
    without trustworthy supervision.

    All pet mammals must have current written proof of rabies
    vaccination. Leashes please, no pets shall be allowed to "run
    free".

    All horses must have current written proof of negative Coggins
    test.

    NO FIRE-PITS are allowed. Fires on the surface, fire-mounds,
    fire-rings, and enclosed fireplaces are allowed. Fire-rings and
    enclosed fireplaces must be movable. If there is a hole or pit in
    your camp, fill it in.

    Deadfall, fallen limbs/trees, may be gleaned anywhere on site.
    However, the bonfire stack, the kitchen woodpile, and any
    "private" camp woodpiles are private use only.

    All woodpiles must be neatly stacked between two trees or posts,
    on a rack and off the ground. Use bricks, concrete blocks, or
    treated timbers to elevate your woodpile. This helps discourage
    vermin and rot.

    Absolutely NO cans, bottles, or other non-combustibles are to be
    put in fires. Do NOT burn plastics or other objects that produce
    toxic smoke.

    Excessively large fires in campsites are not allowed.
    "Excessively large" means a stack of firewood wider than four
    feet (4’) and higher than three feet (3’).

    A minimum of four feet (4’) of cleared space is required around
    fire area, unless you have an enclosed fireplace.

    All tiki type torches need to be placed a minimum of three "3
    feet beyond their "falling distance" to the nearest tent.

    No unattended candles or other sources of flame in tents.

    A fire extinguisher or equivalent must be in camp and in plain
    sight, if you have a fire. Equivalent means a minimum of a shovel
    and a bucket or container (minimum 5 gallons) of sand or water.

    In *dry weather* FIRES ARE NOT PERMITTED without permission of
    the Land Liaison.

    ALL TRASH MUST BE REMOVED AT THE END OF EACH EVENT. If you hauled
    it in...haul it out.

    -----

    RAVEN'S FORT COMMONS

    "Raven's Fort Commons" consists of, but is not limited to, the
    following locations and the area surrounding them: List Field,
    Kitchen / Storeroom, Merchant / Tavern, Feast, Court, Baronial
    Tents, Bonfire, RF Central, Gatekeeper.

    Merchants, including Tavernkeepers, shall set up their facilities
    in the area within Raven's Fort Commons set aside for that
    purpose. Merchant spaces are "first come - first served" unless
    prior arrangements are made.

    Taverns will not serve alcohol. Taverns may serve food and
    non-alcoholic drink only. Operating hours for Taverns are between
    6:00 a.m. and 10:00 p.m. Merchants and Tavernkeepers camping in
    Raven's Fort Commons shall not host overly large or "come one -
    come all" type revels.

    All Taverns must be temporary. There will no longer be any
    permanent "private" Tavern site on the Dorrell Ranch. No one will
    be allowed to set up a "private camp" with the sole or majority
    purpose of having a "private" Tavern.

    Large gatherings may be hosted in the "private" campsites of
    individuals or Households. All gatherings where alcohol is served
    shall strictly comply with the rules of the SCA, Inc. the laws of
    the State of Texas, and of the United States.

    Alcohol may *only* be given away by individuals or households in
    the confines of their "private" campsites. Absolutely no money
    will change hands before, during, or after the gathering for the
    dispersal of home brewed alcohol of any kind. There shall be no
    sale or donation-at-the-place-of-serving for the dispensing of
    legally purchased alcohol.

    All individuals hosting or serving alcohol at a gathering
    automatically assume all liability for the results of serving
    alcohol. All hosts must check IDs, shall not allow minors to
    drink, and shall be responsible for preventing individuals from
    drinking to excess. Absolutely no "open keg" type situations will
    be tolerated.

    No gatherings are allowed in Raven's Fort Commons or other
    "public areas" when large quantities of alcohol are "being passed
    around".

    If necessary, the option of licensed Officers on private duty is
    already in place.

    The Barony reserves the right to set up or build a public
    gathering place and utilize it for those purposes that support
    and fulfill the needs of the Barony and the goals of the SCA,
    Inc.

    -----

    ESTABLISHING AND MAINTAINING A CAMPSITE

    To establish a "Private" or "Group / Household" Campsite ask the
    Land Liaison, Lee Cockerham (Kief) to assist you in finding an
    unused space.

    Mark the perimeters or corners of your camp with one of the
    following: Treated posts, pipe, large stones, or other
    non-obtrusive object. Paint your livery colors on the markers.
    Markers must be at least 30 inches tall. Use as few markers as
    possible, place them as close to trees as possible,to allow for
    mowing and spraying.

    Permanent fences, ground level barriers, and the use of fresh cut
    or untreated wood for "ground contact purposes" that interfere
    with mowing and spraying are not allowed.

    All structures and equipment in camps must be portable.

    All chairs, tables, garbage cans, etc, must be stacked neatly and
    secured to prevent the weather and the cattle from scattering
    them about. The preferred stowage spot is on, or immediately next
    to, your woodpile.

    All camps are to be maintained (mowed, raked, and cleared of
    dead-fall) a minimum of once per year. Each individual or group
    utilizing a campsite is responsible for its upkeep.

    Each camp must be used or maintained at least once per year. If
    not, then that individual or group may lose the privilege of
    maintaining their private / group Campsite.

    Work days / weekends will be arranged throughout the year.
    Contact the Land Liaison, Seneschal, Event Steward(s), or Baron
    and Baroness for dates to come up and work on the site.

    ======================

    LEE COCKERHAM - LAND LIASION TO THE DORRELL RANCH - 26 JULY 2005

    These site rules are subject to change without notice.

    ==================*******************===============

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: byzytym 
      To: doug bell ; ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org 
      Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 7:27 PM
      Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] site rules


      Way ahead of you Magnus.  
      I planned to give the historian and the Seneschal a copy of my event report complete with personal comments.  Perhaps the local Herald should keep a copy of the Champions as well.  
      One of the things that I am going to request / require from our members running the competitions is a COMPLETE SCA name and SCA home area of at least the winners.  It may not hurt to get some kind of contact number as well.  Phone, email, street address, any number they think that they might have a year from now.  It would sure make things easier.
      Of course I document all of the events that I Autocrat for my own files.  Wanna know how many people came to JellyStone Park Saint Patrick's Day weekend 1989 for Black, White and Sort of Greenish Gray ?  
      I'm sure that I have a set of rules from the last time I Autocrated in 2001, but I'm also sure that they have been customizes since then.  A newer version is required.  
      Perhaps Baron Brian can get new a copy for us.



      Pax,
      MARIVS

      "what shall it profit a man,
      if he shall gain the whole world,
      and lose his own soul ?"



        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: doug bell 
        To: ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org 
        Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 1:00 PM
        Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] site rules


        A very good tradition to start would be for the Autocrat of Defender to put together a list of site rules, the event ad, champions list, etc and place it in a hand down file to the next years Defender autocrat.  
        You might keep it in Rosie when she isn't in use.

        Magnus




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