[Ravensfort] Clairification on the Timbrend Forrest Site and Expectations

[byzytym]

I will add to this that when Raven's Fort made agreements with the Gambers 
as to what our part in the bargain would be, we agreed to have workdays to 
develop the site.  We have had only 1 workday ( just before Crown ) since 
last September. ( and the September workday was attended mostly by Halloween 
party hosts )  If we do not have another Timbrend Forest workday before 
Defender  ( which is 7 months away ), then we will have had only 1 workday 
in over a year.  That means that we have not kept our commitment and we have 
broken our word and the deal.  I am personally embarrassed that the word of 
our leaders means so little.

V NV


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike" <lococnc at consolidated.net>
To: <Ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 11:29 PM
Subject: [Ravensfort] Clairification on the Timbrend Forrest Site and 
Expectations


>
> People of Ravensfort,
>
> Before this gets out of hand, please allow me to explain my position and 
> why I am not happy with what was announced earlier.
>
> When we first started working together on cleaning up and preparing the 
> site to have events here things went pretty good, we made good progress. 
> The back looks like a park and is very beautiful. There is not much there 
> for any of you to do in preparation for events.
>
> The ONLY thing that has to be done is mowing. And to do mowing without 
> destroying the mowers, limbs and stuff need to be picked up. This must be 
> done in the spring so that the growth does not get out of control. Last 
> week my family and I picked up the main field behind the barn and I mowed 
> that field. The "parking area" needs some work as well as the "orchard" in 
> front of the barn. This must be done in the next two weeks regardless of 
> anyones schedules, nature demands it. In addition, the front several acres 
> need to be picked up so I can start mowing it like I am doing the back.
>
> So, here is the problem...
>
> IF no one from Ravens Fort is going to come help pickup limbs etc then my 
> family and I will do it. And if we do it then there is not much that the 
> group is going to do in exchange for use of the site. There inlies the 
> conflict. I think it is public knowledge that the site fee that was 
> charged for the last event was $1 per person. This is a token, and by 
> itself not worth the work that I personally have done preparing 
> SPECIFICALLY for your event (in fact I spent more than twice what I made 
> out of my own pocket). What I value more is the work days and individual 
> efforts I saw last year. When I asked Volod not Vlad to request that a 
> work day be arranged to do a spring cleanup and to include in that request 
> that we do the WHOLE property he and I expected this would and should not 
> be an issue. What I am asking for takes no special skill, is not very hard 
> work and should take a half dozen people no more than 4 hours work. I am 
> not asking for a weeks worth of slave labor here. It wil
> l!
> !
> take my wife, brother, 2 4 year olds and I several weekends to accomplish 
> it.
>
> So when I read the response that this request has been denied and y'all 
> are only going to do parts that you use, well guess what? Stay home then 
> because MY FAMILY AND I have already done your work for you. Which brings 
> me to my quandry. I see there being three possible arrangements we could 
> have;
>
> #1 -- Ravens Fort does absolutely no work on the site and simply rents it. 
> This means the site fee will be SKY HIGH. For the Crown Tournament event I 
> would have charged $1000 min for use based on the amount of work I put in.
>
> #2 -- Ravens Fort only maintains the areas they use and at a time of their 
> choosing (say right before events). In this arrangement the site fee will 
> not be $1 per person, more like 3 to 5 times that.
>
> #3 -- Ravens Fort does a Minimum of a strong spring clean up of the whole 
> property (sometime in early April) so that the property can be maintained 
> the rest of the year by my family and I, plus special pre-event work 
> weekends to put on the finishing touches. This is the arrangement I think 
> is in everyones best interest. Site fee will be low, and everyone is 
> happy. Special projects like the Kitchen, Gazeebo, Showers will be 
> arranged among a smaller group and not really in the scope of work I am 
> expecting from the whole group.
>
> I leave it up to y'all, you can also choose #4...
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