[Ravensfort] Tarps and such

[John Reuter]

The group has three Ayla and I have one, Runa has one.


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On Aug 11, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Carolyn Pace <ridgetopfarm at me.com> wrote:

> We do have several. Brian put up some side by side when we had that rainy event several Defenders ago.
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> On Aug 11, 2010, at 06:39 AM, "Hoffpauir, David" <ENV_DRH at SHSU.EDU> wrote:
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>> I may be losing my mind, but don’t we already own one, or a couple garage tents? 
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>> I’m pretty sure, back in the day we could lay hands on eight of them.  As I recall (and don’t quote me on this), but Sir Kief had one, Dave and Dom had one, Niklas and Kezia had one, Berta and I had one, and possibly Brion and Ayla.  I thought the Barony purchased one as well (from Sam’s Club).  That’s only six, but seems like we set eight up in a square once for feast and court.
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>> From: David Brown [mailto:lddevin03 at yahoo.com] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:00 PM
>> To: Hoffpauir, David; ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org
>> Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] Tarps and such
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>> That all sounds good. I still think the garage tents from Academy would be the best bet...and we can take them to other events.
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>> We could always make large Raven's Fort banners and hoist them up yonder poles!
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>> From: "Hoffpauir, David" <ENV_DRH at SHSU.EDU>
>> To: "ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org" <ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org>
>> Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 3:43:01 PM
>> Subject: [Ravensfort] Tarps and such
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>> I’ve been trying to get my head around the engineering on our pavilion project.
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>> Currently we could lift a Volkswagen if we were going strait up.  That’s not the problem though.  We want to use the existing poles and cabling to go between the two uprights with a cover.  That is, rig something between the uprights that can be lifted using the current cabling by inserting a third cable between them.  So instead of just going up we are introducing tension between the two poles and, especially, the two cables. 
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>> Anything attached to the third cable, with any weight at all, is going to pull the existing cables toward each other.  In my mind we’re going to have a major sag in the middle if there is much weight.  We also have to consider wind.  Any material that catches wind will eventually rip.  Catch too much wind and there goes the whole investment.
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>> Options?  Canvas is just plain heavy.  Weatherized material (herculite) would be equally heavy for the size we’re suggesting.  Tarps, would work but are butt ugly.  Rip stop nylon (parachute material) is very light and strong, just hard to come by.  Plastic sheeting, um, forget I mentioned that… 
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>> Another consideration is purpose.  Are we trying to shed water or block sunlight?  Both would be nice but really what is our most common situation?  Sunlight, I’d say.
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>> So what might work?  Cotton painter’s drop cloths might be a alternative.  They come in various sizes, block light and could be decorated, painted, or weatherized.  They also can take abuse.  Check Home Depot.  Another alternative is just plain old bed sheets.  King size.  They are very light, allow air to pass through, could be decorated, come in colors, are easily sewn together, and are easily obtainable.  We could get a dozen at Good Sheppard Mission for almost nothing, or just hit garage sales.
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>> Anyway just a few thoughts.  I’d hate to see us purchase a warehouse of expensive fabric that ends up not working.
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>> As a suggestion, I’d say let’s do the bed sheet angle first and learn from there.  It’s the simplest approach, cheapest by far, and easiest to scrap if the engineering doesn’t work out.
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>> Regards,
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