[Ravensfort] and yet another...

[Dan Smith Jr]

Hawks Screw Haven

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From: "byzytym" <byzytym at att.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 3:31 PM
To: "Hoffpauir, David" <ENV_DRH at SHSU.EDU>; <ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org>
Subject: Re: [Ravensfort] and yet another...

> Very creative.
> We are coming up with some very cool names.
> I was at the site yesterday and saw that our resident hawk has a mate.
> They were both swooping down over the field on the cold winds.
> It reminded me of how active the site is with our fine feathered friends.
> Add the large gathering ( or congress, if you will ) of our corvus mascots
> that are haunting the woods there and it seems
> a natural that we should pick a name that... runs a fowl.
> I really like the "Congresse" suggestion as it relates to gathering 
> Ravens.
> I also really like the "Lyghte"  suggested earlier for the same reason.
> "Congresse Lyghte" has a very wonderfully SCA sound to it.
>
> Peace,
> Volod NotVlad
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Hoffpauir, David" <ENV_DRH at SHSU.EDU>
> To: <ravensfort at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 10:35 AM
> Subject: [Ravensfort] and yet another...
>
>
>> LOL, sometimes it just don't take much...
>>
>> "Conspiracy" got me thinking about the formal name for bird groups, or, 
>> more specific, the name for groups or ravens.
>>
>> "Unkindness of Ravens" is the most prevalent as is a "Conspiracy of 
>> Ravens."
>>
>> I also ran across a "Constable of Ravens" and a "Congress of Ravens." 
>> Constable got thrown right out, but Congress...
>>
>> Congress, although it has it modern political meaning, also means "The 
>> act of coming together."  So, 'hmmm...'  I said to myself.
>>
>> "Congresse" is the middle English spelling (Middle English being from 
>> late 11th century to about 1470 a.d.).  Imagine you are Italian and put a 
>> stressed 'a' on the end and you'd have the approximate period 
>> pronunciation. Something like "Con-greys-sa"
>>
>> Since the new site is exactly 20 miles, as the Raven flies, and almost 
>> exactly due south, I added south to the mix ("Southe" in middle English).
>>
>> Ok, so after employing the vast resources of a public University and an 
>> hour or so of my employer's time I came up with...
>>
>> "Southe Congresse"
>>
>> And considering there is already one of these in Austin, it was all 
>> pretty much a big waste of time...
>>
>>
>>
>> But in the process, I did run across the following line in a medieval 
>> book called (in modern English)  'The Seven Sages' from about 1450 a.d.:
>>
>> a1450 7 Sages(3) (Cmb Dd.1.17)   3147:  "Oppon the bote Thre ravenes 
>> lyghte adoun."
>>
>> Or, "Upon the boat three ravens alighted (down)."
>>
>> And from that took  "Raven's Lyghte"
>>
>> Yeah, yeah it's another raven name... but it looks good on paper and it's 
>> a nice name for poetics, if nothing else, (knight, right, site, bite, 
>> fight, kite, might, tight, blight, slight, gripe, pipe, hype, obama, 
>> llama, duck)...  lol, so toss that suggestion in as well.
>>
>> ;)
>>
>> DSD
>>
>>
>> http://www.birdnature.com/groupnames.html
>>
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