[Ravensfort] Fires&Defender

[Joe McGrew]

The same as any security guard's powers...  they're based off the
trespassing statute, which boils down to being a representative of the
owner or tenant.  The barony would be considered a tenant of the
property (just like anyone renting a party facility) and the barony's
representative can ask to leave anyone who does not follow
instructions.  If they refuse to leave then the representative can
then say they no longer have permission to remain and must leave.  If
they refuse to leave the law can be called.  Force, could be used in
exigent circumstances when it is immediately necessary to prevent
property damage, self defense, or defense of a third party.

The event steward is the legal representative of the barony during the
event, and already has these powers.  He can also delegate that
authority if they so choose.

Gregor

On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Lemoine Beers <loco.cerveza at gmail.com> wrote:
> Gregor
>
> That is a very good idea, the only problem is a legal problem. Where does a
> said fire watch person rights to stop or prevent the actions of another
> begin and end? Could force as defined by Texas law be used to stop lets say
> a drunk person from doing something that would start a fire? Don't get me
> wrong I support your idea, but at the same time you have to look at law
> suits and a person trying to do the right thing going to jail for saving
> every ones life.  This is something that would have to be bounced of of
> Dominique before we did it.
>
> Later
> Lemoine de Gascony MKA "L.D. Beers" loco.cerveza at gmail.com
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> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Joe McGrew <oscagne at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps there could be someone appointed to the position of Watch, and
>> be in charge of Fire Watch and stay on duty and sober throughout the
>> event and enforce the fire regulations.
>>
>> Gregor
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Lemoine Beers <loco.cerveza at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > As it stands right now I have to agree with with Dominique in this
>> > matter. I
>> > do not think we will receive enough rain between now and then to quiet
>> > the
>> > fears of a forest fire, but I am confident that the members of Raven's
>> > Fort
>> > as well as Ansteorra understand the danger and will adhere to any rules
>> > put
>> > into place by David Saint David for this event. I am also confident that
>> > David Saint David will have more the acquit measures in place to keep a
>> > forest fire from breaking out. The only reason that I would see for
>> > canceling the event would be if there was an existing forest fire that
>> > could
>> > spread to our event, and or the smoke from said forest fire made it
>> > unbearable to hold the event. As Dominique pointed out the final call is
>> > up
>> > to the land owners.
>> >
>> > Later
>> > Lemoine de Gascony MKA "L.D. Beers" loco.cerveza at gmail.com
>> >
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