SC - meat days and fast days - MIXED?
Morgan Parris
shaddow_witch at yahoo.com
Thu Oct 29 09:20:58 PST 1998
P.S I am glad to know that I am not the only person to feel this way.
My shire made me feel guilty when I got upset that one vegiteran
wanted me to cater to her.
- ---Shari Burnham <pndarvis at execpc.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> LrdRas at aol.com wrote:
>
> > The SCA tradition is to recreate the 'best' of the Middle Ages'.
> > That being a given people who 'insist' on being treated as
peasants should not
> > expect anything less for their anti-organization play. Frankly
put, if you
> > insist on eating as a peasant at feasts then the bottom line is
for you to
> > provide your own peasant fair. The 'best' does not translate into
serving
> > foods suitable for the poor at feasts. In a more practical vein,
the recipes
> > we have to choose from cere created for tee upper middle class at
the very
> > least and for the nobility for all practical purposes.
>
> I agree with this statement. When I eat feast, I am there to eat a
FEAST. I am
> not there to eat peasant fair. I want the best there is to offer.
The idea of
> "keeping up with the joneses" is not a new one. I'll use Queen
Elizabeth as an
> example. She set her own ways, and everyone followed. WHY? because
"I want to be
> like the queen". How many nobles in the middle ages would eat like
peasants given
> the choice? (ok, there were nobility who were not exactly wealthy, I
> understand..) If there are people who insist on being peasants,
fine. I could
> use a few more scullery maids. I have some latrines that can be
cleaned out.
>
> > What this translates into is that if a person insists on being
treated as a
> > peasant then they should line up at the back door and wait for the
leftovers
> > and scraps to be thrown out to them.
> >
>
> Come on now Ras, I have hunting dogs to feed. The poor at the door
can get their
> alms from the church.
>
> >
> > All in all, I agree that 'vegetarians' as we know them in the
current middle
> > ages did not exist during the first middle ages. I also agree
that it is
> > absurd for 2 or 3 individuals (whether they are veggies or
allergic) should
> > reasonably assume that it would be appropriate to ask that a feast
for 100
> > plus people be specifically geared toward their special needs or
wants.
> >
> > Unfortunately, there is an insidious social custom afoot today which
> > erroneously thinks that because one person is offended by
something there is
> > some kind of obligation to cater to that selfish whim. I, like
you, ignore
> > such insensitivity to the needs of the majority who are trying to
experience
> > as closely as possible the way they did things in the MA.
> >
> > Ras
> >
>
> Being a vegetarian myself, I would find it WRONG if someone tried to
accomodate
> little ole me instead of the needs of 100+ people. (and I think it's
wrong when
> others do as well. Ya don't like it? allergic? DON'T EAT IT!!!!) I
have never
> been at a feast that there was something I could NOT eat. There is
always bread,
> there are always vegetables, there is always dessert. And being
demi-vegetarian,
> on the rare occasions that I let myself have fish, It is usually at
a feast that
> I know fish is served. A true Vegan would have more difficulty,
being on the no
> meat no dairy no animal products, but hey, there is always bread,
usually some
> type of jams/preserves, and plenty of other options they could bring
with them.
> It has been 11 years since I had white meat and 13 since I have had
red, but I
> still cook it, serve it, and have no problems with it. I think
people who EXPECT
> the cuisinier to cater to their needs are incorrect. My friend
Dahrien brought up
> a good point (he is an extremely picky eater by the way): feast is
being served
> for those who want to eat feast. I like eating feast even though
there are many
> foods I do not like, I never starve at a feast. If people can't be
accomodating,
> they can be un-accomodating at a restaurant. This is not BK, you
will not serve
> it "their way". (he has milk and mushroom allergies on top of it).
I like the
> idea that Kat brought up that often two menus were served for
purposes of clergy,
> etc. I would like to try this someday.
>
> Just my ranting and raving, we now return you to your regularily
scheduled list.
> Lady Elisabeth, who is going on vacation in 13 days and counting.
(the new phrase
> at work is "I'm going to VA. No new projects.")
>
>
>
>
>
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I play in the shaddows.I hide in the light.
Mine is the world that shuns the light.
For all the evil that ever has been or ever will be;
i am it and it is me.
Morgan Parris
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