SC - gazpacho and Rome

[Robin Carroll-Mann]

And it came to pass on 30 Sep 99,, that LrdRas at aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 9/30/99 5:40:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> nannar at isholf.is writes:
> 
> << heche de diferentes hierbas ó legumbres >>
> 
> 'made from different herbs and legumes.' Does legumes refer more correctly
> to favas and garbanzos? Or more generally to things that grow on vines?
> 
> Ras

In modern Spanish "legumbres" can mean either legumes or vegetables 
in general.  The phrase above, incidently, is "made from different herbs 
OR vegetables".  The early 18th century dictionary gives the following 
definition:

"Nombre que comprehendre todo genero de frutos o semillas que se 
crian en vainas: como la Judia, el garbanzo, el haba, y otras 
semejantes.  Algunos le extienden a significar algunas hortalizas.  Es 
del Latino 'Legumen'."

My translation: "Name which includes the whole genus of fruits or seeds 
which grow on vines: like the kidney-bean, the chick pea, the broad 
bean, and other similar ones.  Some extend it to mean some 
vegetables.  It is from the Latin 'Legumen'."

So it looks like the term was used primarily to mean legumes -- beans 
and their kindred -- in period.  Granado (1599) uses the term in several 
recipes.  In each of them, it seems to mean legumes.  For example: 
"Para hazer torta de bisaltos secos, y otras legumbres" -- "To make a 
torte of dried peas and other legumes".  The alternate ingredients are 
chick peas, kidney beans, lentils, and broad beans.

Brighid


Lady Brighid ni Chiarain
Settmour Swamp, East (NJ)
mka Robin Carroll-Mann
harper at idt.net
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