SC - gazpacho and Rome
Robin Carroll-Mann
harper at idt.net
Thu Sep 30 21:30:48 PDT 1999
And it came to pass on 30 Sep 99,, that LrdRas at aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 9/30/99 5:40:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> nannar at isholf.is writes:
>
> << heche de diferentes hierbas ó legumbres >>
>
> 'made from different herbs and legumes.' Does legumes refer more correctly
> to favas and garbanzos? Or more generally to things that grow on vines?
>
> Ras
In modern Spanish "legumbres" can mean either legumes or vegetables
in general. The phrase above, incidently, is "made from different herbs
OR vegetables". The early 18th century dictionary gives the following
definition:
"Nombre que comprehendre todo genero de frutos o semillas que se
crian en vainas: como la Judia, el garbanzo, el haba, y otras
semejantes. Algunos le extienden a significar algunas hortalizas. Es
del Latino 'Legumen'."
My translation: "Name which includes the whole genus of fruits or seeds
which grow on vines: like the kidney-bean, the chick pea, the broad
bean, and other similar ones. Some extend it to mean some
vegetables. It is from the Latin 'Legumen'."
So it looks like the term was used primarily to mean legumes -- beans
and their kindred -- in period. Granado (1599) uses the term in several
recipes. In each of them, it seems to mean legumes. For example:
"Para hazer torta de bisaltos secos, y otras legumbres" -- "To make a
torte of dried peas and other legumes". The alternate ingredients are
chick peas, kidney beans, lentils, and broad beans.
Brighid
Lady Brighid ni Chiarain
Settmour Swamp, East (NJ)
mka Robin Carroll-Mann
harper at idt.net
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