SPCA- LONG!!! was Re: SC - Plastic Ware

[Sue Clemenger]

Well, excuse me (as I swing my silver pentagram out of the way and prepare to do
battle...)!  that's really rather unfair to those of us who follow
non-mainstream religions, don't you think?   Rudeness is rudeness, no matter
what religious symbol one happens to be wearing.  I'm an omnivorous pagan who
doesn't ever recall reading _Mother Jones_, although I've heard of it.
The very few people I know who choose not to eat ( or who cannot eat) animal
products (meat, dairy, etc), have always been pretty cool about it.  The ones
I've run into who've been annoying are the folks who whine if you don't serve
'em the equivalent of a couple of steaks at every feast.
When I use recipes from my vegetarian cookbooks (all mundane), I'm not doing it
for ethical, moral, or "allergic" reasons.  I'm trying to watch the amount of
animal fat in my diet...turns out that there's a fair amount of high blood
pressure, strokes, heart disease, and breast cancer in my family tree, and I'd
like to make it past 61, which neither of my parents managed.
I agree, people who natter about this allergy and that, when they really mean "I
don't like it" can be seriously annoying.  I just tune them out, or point out
that such stuff (have a # of friends who hate peppers) isn't period and isn't
showing up in any feast of mine anyway.
- --Maire

Siegfried Heydrich wrote:

>     Please forgive me, but I find such affectations to be amusing at best,
> and extremely annoying at worst. There are people whose diets preclude
> animal products, but I strongly suspect the  total number of these people on
> the whole bloody continent wouldn't fill a middle school auditorium.
>     I have, however, found that there are a large number of ostentatiously
> 'politically correct' people (and they ALL wear silver pentagrams - a hint
> for anyone looking for a topic for their doctoral thesis - does new age
> theology induce allergies? or is it just wearing silver pentagrams that does
> it?) who will subject you to a half hour diatribe on the topic du jour
> (whatever appeared in last months issue of Mother Jones) if you suggest
> serving it to them. I'm also sick unto death of people using 'allergies' as
> an excuse for 'I don't want to eat that'.
>     If they have an ethical / moral problem with eating animal products or
> byproducts, I suggest they READ the ingredients list on their food. If they
> actually do so, they'll find that unless you move out to the commune and
> grow your own food, It's IMPOSSIBLE to escape animal fats, partially
> hydrogynated oils, tuna tainted dolphin, or whatever it is they're all
> haired up about this week.
>     When I do a feast, I'm less than concerned about ANYONE'S political /
> social / moral sensitivity. All I want to do is to put out a really good
> meal (under budget). If anyone has a legitimate health concern, I'll work
> with them, and do what I can to accommodate them. But it really irks me when
> someone promotes their political agenda under the guise of their dietary
> constraints. Grrr . . .
>
>     Sieggy (who got kvetched at by one of the Enlightened while at the BoD
> meeting. which was as exciting as watching butter melt)(and yes, she was
> wearing a silver pentagram)
>
> > My understanding is that "vegan" applies to those who will not eat
> anything that
> > contains any animal product, including cheese, milk, butter or eggs.  I
> believe
> > that those who will eat the above are referred to as ova-lactoid or
> something
> > along those lines....
> >
> > Kiri (who is hoping she won't be laughed at because she can't remember the
> eact
> > term...even though she has several friends who are this type of
> vegetarian)
> > >
> > > <<   Also how vegan is vegan?  I have had people say that are vegan &
> > >  they can or can't eat cheese; can or can't eat any Milk product; can or
> > >  can't eat eggs; can or can't eat fish; even one person who objected to
> > >  Honey as an animal by product.  There fore this challenge:  tell me a
> > >  complete period feast of 3 removes with at least 2 courses per remove
> that
> > >  would not have any dishes objectional to any vegan person. >>
> > >
> > > It takes all kinds.  I have the people who say they are vegans, but will
> eat
> > > chicken or fish.  I would tend to think that being a strict vegetarian
> (after
> > > looking in vegetarian cookbooks) implies vegetables only.  No animal fat
> or
> > > animal byproduct. No milk, cheese, eggs, butter.  There are all kinds.
> I
> > > would expect that  it would be hard to do a completely vegan course that
> is
> > > cuisine period.  I will do some looking and see what I come up with.
> > >
> > > Aldyth
>
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