SC - Cooking Class @ Pennsic

Elaine Koogler ekoogler at chesapeake.net
Tue May 16 07:39:14 PDT 2000


Hullo, the list and Thomas!

It occurs to me this may be the ancestor of both an almond liquer and a
flavored syrup known in France as orgeat. Perhaps it made its way into
beverages as an almond barley water?

Adamantius

"Michael F. Gunter" wrote:
>
> The dish that is called "hordiate" in the manual de mujeres has a long

> tradition as a sick dish. There are three recipes for "ordiat" in the
> earlier Catalan Libre de Sent Sov?(#97 and #98 on p. 128-130
and
> #30 in
> fragment V on p. 223 in Grewe's edition). The basic ingredients are
> barley, almond milk and sugar. Grewe, in a note, distinguishes three
> types: a sort of creme, a version with grains, and a liquid/filtered
> version (the note is in Catalan, I hope I got everything right).
>
> According to Grewe, similar dishes are to be found:
> -- in the Viandier (ed. Pichon/Vicaire p. 25/ ed. Scully #93 p. 163f.)

> -- in the M駭agier (ed. Pichon II 242/ ed. Brereton-Ferrier #304

> p.
> 265f.)
> -- in the Neapolitan recipe collection (ed. Scully #32; here, "brodo
de
> galine" is added too)
> -- in Ruperto de Nola (ed. Iranzo p. 87 "Ordiate para dolientes" and
p.
> 96f. "Auenate y ordiate")
> -- in Diego Granado Maldonado 1599 (fol. 370b-373b "Hordiates para
> dolientes", "Hordiate de ceuada preparada", "Para hazer hordiate de
> ceuada comun", "Para hazer hordiate liquido", "Para hazer hordiate que

> se pueda lleuar por camino"; there is some mis-foliation in my copy:
> fol. 371 has "401").
>
> In addition, there are several such dishes in the book of Anna Wecker
> 1598; she says that she gives different variants to avoid monotony:
> "Alles beschreib ich auff mancherley wei゜ von wegen der
krancken/
> heut
> so/ morgen auff ein besondere wei゜ zu bereiten/ alsdann meinen
> sie
> immer/ es sey ein anders" (p. 7f.).
>
> A further example from dietetic literature: "Vnd von gem? vnd
> k?n mag
> ?er gnad essen gersten, wol gekocht vnd mit mandelmilch wol
> bereitt
> ..." '... your Highness may eat barley, well cooked, and prepared with

> almond milk' (Regimen sanitatis editum pro Friderico palatino Rheni
per
> doctorem Minsinger in fluxu catarrali ad pectus; 15th century, German;

> ed. G. Eis).
>
> It seems, that the expression "(h)ordiat(e/a)" goes back to latin
> "hordeum" 'barley'. I am pretty sure that the background for this
> preparation are the medical and dietetic beliefs of ancient medicine.
>
> Best,
> Thomas


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