SC - Peeps - OT

Wed Apr 4 10:44:10 PDT 2001

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Just a small point...if you are wearing real silk, then you are harming =
the little silkworm that is trying to spin a cocoon to do it's =
metamorphosis into the little butterfly that is it's reward for having =
to be a worm...grin

Just thought I'd mention it...stir, stir, stir...L

Gyric
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: KallipygosRed at aol.com=20
  To: sca-cooks at ansteorra.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:27 AM
  Subject: Re: SC - Florilegium -Furs and OT

  In a message dated 4/4/01 7:45:10 AM US Mountain Standard Time,=20
  ekoogler at chesapeake.net writes:=20

    Or the young woman who was visiting my house who was horrified that =
I have a=20
    VERY OLD coyote fur collar on my cloak...I picked it up at a yard =
sale, and=20
    it=20
    obviously had seen several uses before I acquired it.  She also =
informed me=20
    that=20
    she wouldn't eat meat because that was cruel to animals as well.  I =
then=20
    asked=20
    her where she thought her leather shoes, bag and belt came from!  =
She=20
    allowed as=20
    how she hadn't thought about that!=20

    Kiri=20

  Kiri, I do the same thing with my furs that I buy and restructure for =
SCA=20
  use. I buy the old minks, etc., at yard sales, thrift stores, etc. And =
then=20
  rip them apart. It makes me feel better that nothing *currently* has =
given up=20
  its little life for the project. Also, there was a great post that =
went=20
  around many moons ago that said something similar about leather, and=20
  feathers, and so on. It brought up animal testing for meds, cosmetics; =

  petroleum products used to make clothes that were dangerous to animal=20
  habitats due to drilling, etc. It ended with a statement that said=20
  approximately, "If you aren't wearing linen or silk clothes, shoes =
made of=20
  wood and reed, makeup from herbs you ground yourself, etc., then you =
have no=20
  reason to accost anyone as your view of 'saving the little animals' is =
narrow=20
  and skewed...."  =20

  And has anyone else but me noticed the pendulum swinging back the =
other way=20
  with designers now and the clothing industry in general? They used to =
develop=20
  fake furs that were *obviously fake* (thinking blue leopard here). =
Then they=20
  went to furs that were wonderful knock offs of the real thing. Now, =
they are=20
  actually including *real* fur again in their lines. I keep thinking =
that=20
  maybe it is like the cigar smoking that came back into fashion. I get =
the=20
  feeling that people are getting tired of being PC and being told *how* =
to be=20
  PC; sorta the revenge-enjoyment statement to the world (I'll buy fur =
because=20
  I *want* fur and nothing you say is going to change my mind, so =
there).=20

  Lars=20

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just a small point...if you are wearing =
real silk,=20
then you are harming the little silkworm that is trying to spin a cocoon =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Just thought I'd mention it...stir, =
stir,=20
stir...L</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Gyric</FONT></DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:KallipygosRed at aol.com"=20
  title=3DKallipygosRed at aol.com>KallipygosRed at aol.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:sca-cooks at ansteorra.org"=20
  title=3Dsca-cooks at ansteorra.org>sca-cooks at ansteorra.org</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 04, 2001 =
11:27=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: SC - Florilegium =
- -Furs and=20
  OT</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT color=3D#800080 =
face=3DCollage=20
  lang=3D0 size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SERIF">In a message dated 4/4/01 7:45:10 =
AM US Mountain=20
  Standard Time, <BR><A=20
  href=3D"mailto:ekoogler at chesapeake.net">ekoogler at chesapeake.net</A> =
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  style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
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  TYPE=3D"CITE">Or the young woman who was visiting my house who was =
horrified=20
    that I have a <BR>VERY OLD coyote fur collar on my cloak...I picked =
it up at=20
    a yard sale, and <BR>it <BR>obviously had seen several uses before I =

    acquired it.  She also informed me <BR>that <BR>she wouldn't =
eat meat=20
    because that was cruel to animals as well.  I then <BR>asked =
<BR>her=20
    where she thought her leather shoes, bag and belt came from! =
 She=20
    <BR>allowed as <BR>how she hadn't thought about that! <BR><BR>Kiri=20
    <BR></FONT><FONT color=3D#7d025b face=3DArial lang=3D0 size=3D3=20
  FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></FONT><FONT color=3D#800080 =
face=3DCollage=20
  lang=3D0 size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SERIF"><BR>Kiri, I do the same thing with =
my furs that I=20
  buy and restructure for SCA <BR>use. I buy the old minks, etc., at =
yard sales,=20
  thrift stores, etc. And then <BR>rip them apart. It makes me feel =
better that=20
  nothing *currently* has given up <BR>its little life for the project. =
Also,=20
  there was a great post that went <BR>around many moons ago that said =
something=20
  similar about leather, and <BR>feathers, and so on. It brought up =
animal=20
  testing for meds, cosmetics; <BR>petroleum products used to make =
clothes that=20
  were dangerous to animal <BR>habitats due to drilling, etc. It ended =
with a=20
  statement that said <BR>approximately, "If you aren't wearing linen or =
silk=20
  clothes, shoes made of <BR>wood and reed, makeup from herbs you ground =

yourself, etc., then you have no reason to accost anyone as your =
view of=20
 'saving the little animals' is narrow and skewed...."   =
 And=20
 has anyone else but me noticed the pendulum swinging back the other =
way=20
 with designers now and the clothing industry in general? They used =
to=20
 develop fake furs that were *obviously fake* (thinking blue =
leopard here).=20
 Then they went to furs that were wonderful knock offs of the real =
thing.=20
 Now, they are actually including *real* fur again in their lines. =
I keep=20
 thinking that maybe it is like the cigar smoking that came back =
into=20
 fashion. I get the feeling that people are getting tired of being =
PC and=20
 being told *how* to be PC; sorta the revenge-enjoyment statement =
to the=20
 world (I'll buy fur because I *want* fur and nothing you say is =
going to=20
 change my mind, so there). Lars=20
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