[Sca-cooks] Glossary submission?

[a5foil]

I don't know if this holds true in the German, but in the French, Italian,
Spanish and Catalan, the word that translates to English as "in" may also
translate to English as "on" or "about", depending on the context. For
example, from the Catalan, "en la olla" translates as "in the pot" while "en
ast" means "on the spit" or "spit-roasted" depending on how it's used.

Thomas Longshanks

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<< *in* a broch? That doesn't sound like a spit. Sounds like a low-sided
clay pot. >>

While the OED says that _broch_ also referred to large jugs ("1679
Blount Anc. Tenures 51 One iron Broch, which was a great Pot or Jug to
carry Liquid things."), the use of "in" in respect to spits is not
wholly unusual.

I had to comment on two recipes with "in einem spisse" (lit. 'in a
spit') in the Rheinfränkisches Kochbuch, 15th c., german. Looking if
this was an error or if I could keep it in the edition, I found that the
construction with "in" is found in several other languages, too

-- in Middle Low German texts ("in en ider spyt 4 stucke", lit. 'in each
spit four pieces')

-- in Italian recipes, _nello spiedo_ lit. 'in the spit', e.g. in
Maestro Martino, in the Anonimo Meridionale, see Boström A31.3, A62.2

-- in French "en la broche" lit. 'in the spit' (e.g. in the Menagier)

-- and in Latin "in spitone" lit. 'in the spit', Cookbook of Jean de
Bockenheim, ed. Laurioux # 19, 22, 50.

Thus, as _broch_ seems to go back to French _broche_, the use of _in_ in
respect to _broch_ in an English text might be another piece of French
heritage.

Thomas
(The recipe again:
1594 Handmaide (Peachey p. 40) "To roste a Hare. First wash it in faire
water, then perboyle it and lay in cold water againe, then larde it, and
roste it in a broch. Then to make sauce for it, take red Vinigar, Salt,
Pepper, Ginger Cloves, Mace, and put them together. Then minse Apples,
and Onions, and frie them with a litle Sugar, and let them boyle wel
together, then baste it upon yor hare, and so serve it foorth".)

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