[Sca-cooks] New compost recipe (long)
Gorgeous Muiredach
muiredach at bmee.net
Tue Nov 27 17:49:33 PST 2001
>com-POST, n., [OFr. composte, compote, condiment, pickle < L.
>compositus; see COMPOSITE], 1. a composition; compound. 2. a mixture of
>decomposing vegetable refuse, manure, etc., for fertilizing the soil.
>
>com-POTE, n., [F., see COMPOST]
>
>It's probably worth noting that the first version, spoken in French,
>would end up with either a silent or absent "s", as in hospital/hopital,
>hostel/hotel, etc.
Well, mylord, here I beg to differ. French being my first language, I can
guarantee you that the S in compost is indeed pronounced and changes the
meaning. Also, compote carries a silent e. This e while not pronounced
changes the way you pronounce the word. Hard to describe in words, perhaps
I'll post a little wav on my site.
I just looked in "Larousse de la langue francaise, LEXIS", the 1985
edition. Note the quick translation is from me... It says:
Compost: [English word, from ancient french Compost, from the latin
compositus]. Mixture of dirt, organic garbage and lie, which transform
itself little by little into dirt.
Compote: [from Latin composita, from componere, to put together] Fruits,
whole or cut in parts, cooked with sugar.
>They are pretty obviously the same word. The fact that American
>gardeners are unaware of the etymology really changes nothing.
Here again, I must argue :-) They are NOT the same word. They have the
same *origin*, but usage has changed them. *today*, compost and compote
are two different things. The word's origin, as you rightly point out, is
the same. But the meaning has veered off quite a bit.
Of course, I'm just a cook, not a linguist, soooo, I may just be full of
compost to be ;-)
Gorgeous Muiredach
Rokkehealden Shire
Middle Kingdom
aka
Nicolas Steenhout
"You must deal with me as I think of myself" J. Hockenberry
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